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The Omega Man
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No idea but I stand by my comment. He is not a captain IMHO. I dont think that he has the personality for it.[DOUBLEPOST=1386802379][/DOUBLEPOST]To be replaced by?
Nee idea. Its not my job to pick the England captain.
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He's the best man for the job for a while yet mate. Next captain will be Root but that's a long while off.
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Sums the situation up IMHO.
smoker
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True but the fact remains there are no outstanding candidates for the job.
Only realistic candidate is Prior, but he's in worse form with the bat. We could call up Colly but that would be a short term fix and we'd still have to find a long term captain from somewhere.[DOUBLEPOST=1386803845][/DOUBLEPOST]
Aye, the medium to long term prospects for English cricket are not great. Could be a long downward slope from here.
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The whole thing now looks to be in transition. Just heard a few sports people talking about this very subject on Sky TV.
True but the fact remains there are no outstanding candidates for the job.
Only realistic candidate is Prior, but he's in worse form with the bat. We could call up Colly but that would be a short term fix and we'd still have to find a long term captain from somewhere.
Your point please?Alastair Cook
He averages a century every 4 tests
Pretty impressive
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The best setups recognise when its turning to rat shit and seamlessly get rid of the old guard and bring in the new lads. Unfortunately so many of our players have been untouchable for so long its going to be a painful process most likely. Remarkable how we've gone from hero to zero but lets face it if everyone read the tea leaves properly we saw that we never got out of second gear in the summer. We were poor but people mostly just put it down to not having to try very much to beat a very mediocre Aussie team. Seems as though that was incorrect perhaps.
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Root, Stokes, Wokes, Kerrigan, Bairstow all been given a chance lately. Balance in the squad. Young players are getting a chance, but other than Root and possibly Stokes none of them are hammering on the door for a start.
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massive overreactions here like
too many of our players out of form at the same time, but all of a sudden were in dire straits, anyone over 30 needs axing, cook needs dropping and were in transition?
i do agree however i dont think cook is made for captaincy but carrying a captain is a big strain on the team and generally, when everyone is in reasonable form, 11 good players with an average captain works better than 10 good players and a good captain.
a very poor tour so far yes, hardly the end of an era though.
too many of our players out of form at the same time, but all of a sudden were in dire straits, anyone over 30 needs axing, cook needs dropping and were in transition?
i do agree however i dont think cook is made for captaincy but carrying a captain is a big strain on the team and generally, when everyone is in reasonable form, 11 good players with an average captain works better than 10 good players and a good captain.
a very poor tour so far yes, hardly the end of an era though.
Rip Van Fish
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48 today m8.
I know about the captaincy lark et al. Boycott was a bit mardy like.
Twisted
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happy birthday old bean
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massive overreactions here like
too many of our players out of form at the same time, but all of a sudden were in dire straits, anyone over 30 needs axing, cook needs dropping and were in transition?
i do agree however i dont think cook is made for captaincy but carrying a captain is a big strain on the team and generally, when everyone is in reasonable form, 11 good players with an average captain works better than 10 good players and a good captain.
a very poor tour so far yes, hardly the end of an era though.
If players are 'out of form' what the fuck are they doing on the tour?
You're wrong anyway IMHO, this boils down to psychology and coaching. Batsmen are questioning their ability, resulting in poor decision making.
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He s no Vaughan or Strauss.
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With a few exceptions athletes tend to be the first to critise their failings and are openly critical of themselves in anything but peak form. To essentially say to an athlete "well done on all your past successes" is a huge insult. Cook would be the first person to admit he's been poor I reckon. It's not a nice or supportive thing to do, but sport at this level is about winning above all else.Second sentence was me being a facitous over the 'signs were there' comment, but the rest are all on this forum. Not all from you like.
I don't know what it is about this country. We have world class talent in Cook, someone who is in the process of breaking all the records there is for his discipline, but as soon as he drops his level even slightly the knives come out. Mental really.
I don't advocate dropping him or anything of the sort mind. But he has been poor for half the past two series he's played, not remotely up to the very impressive standards he's set himself, as have several other players, I don't see what's wrong in stating that. It's objective fact. It's not like I'm ringing his house and saying he's shit. If we lose the Ashes though, a lot of it will be down to his relative nonperformance, as well as that of others. That's the boundaries that sport sets, that's what he's signed up to, that's how I'm calling it.[DOUBLEPOST=1386853944][/DOUBLEPOST]
massive overreactions here like
too many of our players out of form at the same time, but all of a sudden were in dire straits, anyone over 30 needs axing, cook needs dropping and were in transition?
i do agree however i dont think cook is made for captaincy but carrying a captain is a big strain on the team and generally, when everyone is in reasonable form, 11 good players with an average captain works better than 10 good players and a good captain.
a very poor tour so far yes, hardly the end of an era though.
It's only all of a sudden if you've been ignoring form. We've clearly been on the wane for two years and over reliant on the attack by any way you'd like to look at it. Batting order hasn't faced a half way decent attack and posted a good total for anything more than a couple of Tests at most, and been obliterated by good ones.
Funny old game, Clarke doesnt win a game for 9 text matches now is the best thing since sliced bread. England had the worlds best spinner now he should be be dropped after couple of bad tests, truth is, he wasnt the best in the first place and certainly isnt the worse now, just a decent spinner having a bad time of it on some pretty unforgiving grounds.
The present witch hunt is nothing more than the media stoking the fires by either building England up to be far better than we ever were and now doing the opposite with how bad we are where in fact we have always been somewhere in between.
The present witch hunt is nothing more than the media stoking the fires by either building England up to be far better than we ever were and now doing the opposite with how bad we are where in fact we have always been somewhere in between.
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Twisted
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they won the ashes a few months ago, do you really think a whole raft of players making their debuts would do any better?
i do agree with your second point however, although complacency is the culprit IMO same thing happened after we reached number 1 status.
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