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prehab26 said:
Maybe. He looks right though. Wanted better quality and not quantity. Hope the board is shook up me.
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He never got his English CM or a left back......lots of blame must go to the board and recruitment team from SAFC.

Scared for what comes next to be honest.
 

Antidotes said:
Some blokey doing the papers on SSN reckons he told them if they don't like him go and complain, looks like they did
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Probably shite journo speculation.........we'd better batten down the hatches,gonna be a lot more as they let their hatred of him run wild!
 
rokerite78 said:
It wouldn't have been in peril if they buckled down at the beginning of the season and got on with doing the best for the club rather than looking out for themselves the spineless *****.
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They did buckle down.....how many on here commented on how lean they looked after pre-season. What did you want them to do to prove they were giving their best?.........perhaps they were poorly set up.......poorly advised tactically and undermined and blamed by the coach when his tactics were shown to be ineffective. Not Paolo's fault is it......it's always the feckless players. I really don't believe that professional footballers ever go out to give less than their best but quite often end up doing just that because they have been poorly organised, set up or motivated.
 
Lord Alfred said:
They did buckle down.....how many on here commented on how lean they looked after pre-season. What did you want them to do to prove they were giving their best?.........perhaps they were poorly set up.......poorly advised tactically and undermined and blamed by the coach when his tactics were shown to be ineffective. Not Paolo's fault is it......it's always the feckless players. I really don't believe that professional footballers ever go out to give less than their best but quite often end up doing just that because they have been poorly organised, set up or motivated.
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Wow, then you're way more naive than could've been thought.
 
Lord Alfred said:
They did buckle down.....how many on here commented on how lean they looked after pre-season. What did you want them to do to prove they were giving their best?.........perhaps they were poorly set up.......poorly advised tactically and undermined and blamed by the coach when his tactics were shown to be ineffective. Not Paolo's fault is it......it's always the feckless players. I really don't believe that professional footballers ever go out to give less than their best but quite often end up doing just that because they have been poorly organised, set up or motivated.
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Don't know which gooseberry bush you came from.
 
sad-eyed prophet said:
I would like to know what the Board are thinking here. When they made the decision to boot MON and appoint PDC, with the RFD involvement,it was a clear statement that they wanted to make a break with the ways of the past which had led to average players being signed on long-term,high-cost contracts and who were regularly underachieving on and off the pitch. They must have known that it would take time to reverse this position and to get a squad of younger,hungrier players together who would eventually be in a position to mount a serious challenge for some success. They must have known of PDC's characteristics....he hasn't changed.....and the risks this would pose,and surely never thought that the objectives would be achieved overnight....indeed,may even involve a relegation before getting it right.If they weren't prepared to ride the inevitable challenges,why did they appoint him? To get rid of him 5 games in,after what seems an altercation with some players, which they would not have wanted,but knew was a possibility, seems to be a panic filled,ill-considered move demonstrating no clear idea of any commitment to their original decision. As in any business,if it is to be successful,there has to be clear positive leadership in control of a properly thought out strategy........something sadly lacking here and which requires some forthright explanation.
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Good post...
 
Medulla said:
You what now? :lol:
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That's what they told us. Di Fanti and Angeloni handle in comings....the coach will assemble them into a team and decide tactics. Cabral, Diakite and Roberge were all on their way prior to PDC coming in.

That's how the European model works.
 
Antidotes said:
Aye of course that was why he got sent off, not because we were robbed of a perfectly good goal and he was venting anger at it like most managers would :oops:
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he was actually complaining about Giroud taking an ages to come off the pitch to be substituted in extra time when he got sent to the stand

it's funny because if you look at the main reason of the decision regarding the 'goal' and a few other decisions then the comment "to complete the perfect job, you can send me off to the stand" isn't anything to do with "the PDC media show" at all! it's simply by a manager who thinks he's been hard done by. I'm pretty sure a few on here would say something similar as would most other Premiership managers!
 
MackemX said:
he was actually complaining about Giroud taking an ages to come off the pitch to be substituted in extra time when he got sent to the stand

it's funny because if you look at the main reason of the decision regarding the 'goal' and a few other decisions then the comment "to complete the perfect job, you can send me off to the stand" isn't anything to do with "the PDC media show" at all! it's simply by a manager who thinks he's been hard done by. I'm pretty sure a few on here would say something similar as would most other Premiership managers!
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I know he was pissed off about Giroud but that wasn't the main reason behind his anger. He'd be remonstrating to the fourth official for the remainder of the game after the goal was disallowed until he got sent to the stands, the Giroud incident just tipped him over the edge. It certainly tipped me over the edge :lol:
 
sad-eyed prophet said:
I would like to know what the Board are thinking here. When they made the decision to boot MON and appoint PDC, with the RFD involvement,it was a clear statement that they wanted to make a break with the ways of the past which had led to average players being signed on long-term,high-cost contracts and who were regularly underachieving on and off the pitch. They must have known that it would take time to reverse this position and to get a squad of younger,hungrier players together who would eventually be in a position to mount a serious challenge for some success. They must have known of PDC's characteristics....he hasn't changed.....and the risks this would pose,and surely never thought that the objectives would be achieved overnight....indeed,may even involve a relegation before getting it right.If they weren't prepared to ride the inevitable challenges,why did they appoint him? To get rid of him 5 games in,after what seems an altercation with some players, which they would not have wanted,but knew was a possibility, seems to be a panic filled,ill-considered move demonstrating no clear idea of any commitment to their original decision. As in any business,if it is to be successful,there has to be clear positive leadership in control of a properly thought out strategy........something sadly lacking here and which requires some forthright explanation.
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some sense in a sea of turd.
 
Lord Alfred said:
They did buckle down.....how many on here commented on how lean they looked after pre-season. What did you want them to do to prove they were giving their best?.........perhaps they were poorly set up.......poorly advised tactically and undermined and blamed by the coach when his tactics were shown to be ineffective. Not Paolo's fault is it......it's always the feckless players. I really don't believe that professional footballers ever go out to give less than their best but quite often end up doing just that because they have been poorly organised, set up or motivated.
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take a look here mate, I could certainly point the finger at the players for the 3 goals we conceded.

http://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/the-goals-and-some-reasoning-as-to-who-is-to-blame.812805/

this is what I've concluded in another thread but would you say that Colback's attempt at the blocking of the 3rd goal he gave 100% commitment?

MackemX said:
I honestly can't believe what some people are saying on the SMB and there's even a thread blaming Westwood for all 3 goals

well watch this quick and a few times and then look at the fact that the blame starts before Westwood. It actually boils down to SAFC players ball watching and not bothering to track players moving into the box or in Colback's case not giving 100% when trying to block a shot!

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1st goal - Sess lays it off and runs between 2 SAFC players untracked. Ki was actually on Sess but then starts ball watching as Sess heads into the box. The ball is crossed over and the WBA player gets a touch deflects it towards goal. Westwood instinctively reacts to save it (some on SMB are actually blaming Westwood!) but it deflects out to Sess who was on it like a flash. No f***ing SAFC player bothered tracking him and just watch how they stop/start (O'Shea and Gardener I think) when it's saved!

2nd goal - was a decent knock away could have been stronger possibly but it wasn't an awful punch plus he kept his balance rather than over commit to the punch. He even got a partial block on the shot but it still went in just inside the post. Johnson on the other hand just let Ridgewell into a position where if the ball came over that direction he'd be unchallenged.

Ridgewell is well behind Johnson yet when it matters he comes running in past Johnson anticipating the ball coming across. Johnson has completely ignored him and ends up too far away to even do anything as he reacts too late and may as well have not been on the pitch.

Johnson was f***ing ball watching but again people blame Westwood (he nearly blocked the shot as it just went inside the post) and not the fact that Johnson should have been in a better position to put pressure on, block or even win the ball that came out

3rd goal - WBA player gets the ball with back to O'Shea outside the penalty area so not really a danger. Yet for some reason Colback gets drawn into towards the ball so the WBA player lays it off wide to Amafaltino who's now in yards of space

Colback then half heartedly tries to get across and puts in a feeble attempt by lazyingly sticking out a foot (he also turns away) to block the shot. Admittedly Westwood could have done better but it was a canny fast shot so it's simply gone through his hands as he didn't react quick enough. But I'd be looking at Colback's decisions and piss poor effort at the block as that's more f***ing concerning![DOUBLEPOST=1379796973][/DOUBLEPOST]:edit: just seen a thread blaming Colback for all 3 now :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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same way as I could point the finger at Valencia and Fellaini in the Manchester Derby yesterday. Simple basic defending yet they don't do it and it costs them!

http://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/dimatteos-formation.813778/#post-15955703

MackemX said:
aye, unfortunately it's common practice if you look at how goals are scored and the opportunities to stop them aren't acted upon. Even the top teams are guilty of this attitude, for example watch the Man City/Utd highlights

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the 1st goal has Kolorov coming outside Nasri to put the cross in. Valencia who had yards on him to begin with just ignores Kolorov running past looking for the ball! If Valencia tracks him then who knows if he'd got the cross over for Aguero or even got the pass in the 1st place.

also the 3rd goal, (the best one of all and even worse than Sess waltzing into the box) watch Fellaini as Aguero is right beside him initially when the ball is played into Negredo. Aguero runs around Fellaini into the box and Fellaini does fuck all and when Aguero scores, Fellaini has the f***ing cheek to throws his arms up into the air!!!! :lol:

Chris Smalling also does the 'arms out in disgust' for the 4th, yet surely he should be aware that Nasri is behind him in yards of space just in case the ball does come long over his head?

some fans only see the result but simple things like this are sometimes the difference between success and failure!

It's not always noticeable as many of these lazy moments don't result in goals but they are certainly there and the more players piss about rather than picking up/tracking back etc then the more chance they will have of conceding
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sad-eyed prophet said:
I would like to know what the Board are thinking here. When they made the decision to boot MON and appoint PDC, with the RFD involvement,it was a clear statement that they wanted to make a break with the ways of the past which had led to average players being signed on long-term,high-cost contracts and who were regularly underachieving on and off the pitch. They must have known that it would take time to reverse this position and to get a squad of younger,hungrier players together who would eventually be in a position to mount a serious challenge for some success. They must have known of PDC's characteristics....he hasn't changed.....and the risks this would pose,and surely never thought that the objectives would be achieved overnight....indeed,may even involve a relegation before getting it right.If they weren't prepared to ride the inevitable challenges,why did they appoint him? To get rid of him 5 games in,after what seems an altercation with some players, which they would not have wanted,but knew was a possibility, seems to be a panic filled,ill-considered move demonstrating no clear idea of any commitment to their original decision. As in any business,if it is to be successful,there has to be clear positive leadership in control of a properly thought out strategy........something sadly lacking here and which requires some forthright explanation.
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Excellent post mate.
 
It was o'shea and cattermole that stood up and led the revolt[DOUBLEPOST=1379930532][/DOUBLEPOST]It was on behalf of quite a few players, 5 of the players we have signed over the summer had put in transfer requests.
 
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It's all speculation really.Player revolt?Maybe.
For all we know PDC may have had a meeting with Ellis Short after Saturdays debacle and lost it with the Chairman!

Personally I don't give a shit about what's happened since PDC signed ....all that concerns me now is turning the ship around and salvaging something from such a terrible start.
How we can do that is a mystery to me though.Whoever comes in as manager has no cash,the window has closed and they need to make the most of the squad they'll inherit.
I was one of the people saying "please give him some proper time to get the job done" and I bought into the "glory days just around the corner" attitude but over the past month I've seen some awful performances from players we were told had so much potential to revolutionise the on-field prospects of this great club and I began to think "Here we go again,New man/regime...same shit".
Whatever happens now is in the hands of the players we have.....If they continue to look out of their depth under a new manager and we get relegated then we can say they're the problem but if a new man comes in and gets them playing well and we survive (or at least show some ability/spirit/desire) then we can say it was PDC who was the problem.

Finally....I'm shitting bricks now after having so much hope. It's the shattered hope that hurts most!
 
lenwood said:
It was o'shea and cattermole that stood up and led the revolt[DOUBLEPOST=1379930532][/DOUBLEPOST]It was on behalf of quite a few players, 5 of the players we have signed over the summer had put in transfer requests.
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Source?
 
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