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dennis longhorn said:
Nonsense the manager was a nutjob the players hated him.
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These same players who can't seem to string 3 passes together?

If they were playing well and winning matches, then they'd have a point.

Di Canio could have been a bit craftier the way he went about things, but his underlying message was absolutely correct - the players are not performing and didn't under O'Neill.

So, the manager is like a bull in a china shop and tells it exactly how he sees it - his message is correct - "f***ing shape up".

And as others have pointed out, those players with big f***ing egos can't accept it - they argue about his 'style' because in terms of his message they don't have a f***ing leg to stand on.

What Di Canio always said was that if you accept second best, or 20th best in SAFC's current situation, then that is what you'll get.

But, of course, Di Canio wasn't prepared to accept that and resolved to do what it took to get that into their heads, but our players who have form for damaging cars, lying around in money in casinos, on the piss during the week etc couldn't take that as they don't want to face up to their lack of performances and it seems they don't agree with Di Canio that they need to shape up.

To say Ferguson was authoritarian when he needed to be is an understatement, but then he had the luxury of picking and choosing players because Man Utd is England's premier club - he wouldn't have chosen any of these with their attitudes.
 

Locke's SAFC said:
These same players who can't seem to string 3 passes together?

If they were playing well and winning matches, then they'd have a point.

Di Canio could have been a bit craftier the way he went about things, but his underlying message was absolutely correct - the players are not performing and didn't under O'Neill.

So, the manager is like a bull in a china shop and tells it exactly how he sees it - his message is correct - "f***ing shape up".

And as others have pointed out, those players with big f***ing egos can't accept it - they argue about his 'style' because in terms of his message they don't have a f***ing leg to stand on.

What Di Canio always said was that if you accept second best, or 20th best in SAFC's current situation, then that is what you'll get.

But, of course, Di Canio wasn't prepared to accept that and resolved to do what it took to get that into their heads, but our players who have form for damaging cars, lying around in money in casinos, on the piss during the week etc couldn't take that as they don't want to face up to their lack of performances and it seems they don't agree with Di Canio that they need to shape up.

To say Ferguson was authoritarian when he needed to be is an understatement, but then he had the luxury of picking and choosing players because Man Utd is England's premier club - he wouldn't have chosen any of these with their attitudes.
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Spot on. What I think but couldn't be arsed to type it. To clarify am not saying PDC is blameless but fuck me the players need to shoulder the bulk of blame
 
Nee different to firemen going on strike for pay issues. If i was being publicly slated by my boss id be going higher up. They did the right thing. Di Canio is an utter cock and mentally disturbed
 
lenwood said:
It was o'shea and cattermole that stood up and led the revolt[DOUBLEPOST=1379930532][/DOUBLEPOST]It was on behalf of quite a few players, 5 of the players we have signed over the summer had put in transfer requests.
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Can't help thinking there's something in all of that you know.
 
This is just an example im not saying anything derogtory at all but some of Hitler's generals tried to blow the fucker up !!
 
Locke's SAFC said:
To say Ferguson was authoritarian when he needed to be is an understatement, but then he had the luxury of picking and choosing players because Man Utd is England's premier club - he wouldn't have chosen any of these with their attitudes.
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Errrr John O'Shea
 
Locke's SAFC said:
These same players who can't seem to string 3 passes together?

If they were playing well and winning matches, then they'd have a point.

Di Canio could have been a bit craftier the way he went about things, but his underlying message was absolutely correct - the players are not performing and didn't under O'Neill.

So, the manager is like a bull in a china shop and tells it exactly how he sees it - his message is correct - "f***ing shape up".

And as others have pointed out, those players with big f***ing egos can't accept it - they argue about his 'style' because in terms of his message they don't have a f***ing leg to stand on.

What Di Canio always said was that if you accept second best, or 20th best in SAFC's current situation, then that is what you'll get.

But, of course, Di Canio wasn't prepared to accept that and resolved to do what it took to get that into their heads, but our players who have form for damaging cars, lying around in money in casinos, on the piss during the week etc couldn't take that as they don't want to face up to their lack of performances and it seems they don't agree with Di Canio that they need to shape up.

To say Ferguson was authoritarian when he needed to be is an understatement, but then he had the luxury of picking and choosing players because Man Utd is England's premier club - he wouldn't have chosen any of these with their attitudes.
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No, Paolo was terrible at man management, terrible at tactics, terrible at making decisions...
Boot camps like he did in pre-season were common decades ago, since then managers got rid of them and started to train a lot more with the ball.
He doesn't talk to Brown for weeks, then he says he was just testing him. He stripped Cattermole of captaincy, even taken his number from him to gave him to his new quality CM. Then after one game (a good one actually) he completely demolishes the new quality CM, then he tells us Vaughan, Larsson and Gardner are more physical and more agressive than Cabral, then he says they are all better than Cabral, including Cattermole.
He refuses to take good money from Ji and then humiliates him in a cup game.
He relegates Altidore to the bench after scoring a very good goal against Arsenal.

It was an amateurish job and you could see than from space, and his ego is bigger than all Premiership players put together. Just because a manager is angry on the touch line and keeps slagging the players doesn't mean he's good. You could appoint the kit man to shout and keep saying "we should work harder, you clowns" for that. While I think the players should take theit share of the blame, at least some of them look like Premier League players, while Paolo is far from a Prem manager.
 
Father Jack Hackett said:
They loved O'Neill, so what happened there?
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They couldn't retain the ball for love nor money. And, it went on week after week. O'Neill didn't have a solution, but it seems the players don't mind the manager having no f***ing idea how to turn it round providing they like him and 'would run through brick walls for him'. Fuck me, what a stupid comment. I could run through f***ing brick walls but it ain't going to win matches if you can't pass a ball.

Looks to me like the players wanted it cosy - win, lose or draw.
 
Tom said:
Thought it was him & Cattermole who faced up to him.
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I'd be surprised.

Cattermole yes, because he's not the manager's first choice and may have an axe to grind. Funny how posters are saying Di Canio is an idiot but you don't see him damaging cars and he's still as fit as fire even though he isn't a player - says a bit about him.

I would have thought O'Shea is more reasonable and professional.
 
Locke's SAFC said:
To say Ferguson was authoritarian when he needed to be is an understatement, but then he had the luxury of picking and choosing players because Man Utd is England's premier club - he wouldn't have chosen any of these with their attitudes.
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I love comparisons like this, utter bollocks. Ferguson has authority and control about him, he'd earnt the authority. He also admitted in recent years he had to calm down and manage players egos to get performances.

Management by hand grenade is what the Swindon chairman said about Di Canio, regardless of how many arseholes are on our books or how incompetent they are, laying into them and slagging them off at every given opportunity is never ever going to work.
 
Perryqhill said:
I love comparisons like this, utter bollocks. Ferguson has authority and control about him, he'd earnt the authority. He also admitted in recent years he had to calm down and manage players egos to get performances.

Management by hand grenade is what the Swindon chairman said about Di Canio, regardless of how many arseholes are on our books or how incompetent they are, laying into them and slagging them off at every given opportunity is never ever going to work.
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or MONs management , who will these overpaid pompous fucks play for
 
Locke's SAFC said:
I'd be surprised.

Cattermole yes, because he's not the manager's first choice and may have an axe to grind. Funny how posters are saying Di Canio is an idiot but you don't see him damaging cars and he's still as fit as fire even though he isn't a player - says a bit about him.
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No damaging cars, no just Nazi salutes and pushing referees over. Controversy has followed him everywhere he's been.
 
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