Flash Gordon
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What has that got to do with us? I'm sure that's a valid excuse when the bank manager comes knocking "but other teams are doing it"
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What has that got to do with us? I'm sure that's a valid excuse when the bank manager comes knocking "but other teams are doing it"
Lord Alfred
Striker
What has that got to do with us? I'm sure that's a valid excuse when the bank manager comes knocking "but other teams are doing it"
£60+ million over the next 4 years......
Flash Gordon
Striker
£20m debt for 4 of the last 5 years. You can't gamble on the future when no matter who you buy, it's no guarantee to stay up. You still haven't grasped the Premier League rules regarding wage bills either. You seem to just ignore it.
Perryqhill
Striker
I don't think we'll have cut it by much, I just think it's obvious we couldn't have took it much higher.
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mbmueller831
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For me Barry and Bradley are better defensively, which is the important thing when you are playing only 2 in the middle. You don't need goals and assists from them. The fact they can take the ball off the defenders and complete 90% of their passes is what is needed. Jozy and Fletcher will score enough goals.
Lord Alfred
Striker
So you think letting 9 leave and bringing 14 in reduced the wage bill substantially.....and that's without the fees associated with bringing those 14 in.[DOUBLEPOST=1379280081][/DOUBLEPOST]
A lot of the top clubs have midfields which outscore the striker (most only have one) or a prolific striker like Van Persie.....look at Chelsea....or Spurs...or Arsenal.....hugely talented midfields with lots of goals in them. The game is evolving.
King for a Day...
Winger
thats ridiculous. you seem to think that it is nigh on impossible to win away from home against anyone, and nigh on impossible to win at home against anyone in the top 6... and Newcastle.
I would put money on us winning at least 3 of those games you have listed. In fact, lets say 12 points from those games at a minimum.
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Pepe
Striker
We are clearly positioning ourselves for next season, the scope to improve the squad with 2 or 3 quality additions will materialise once Seb, Gardner and Vaughan move on. Our turnover will have significantly improved too due to the first year of increased money hitting the books, allowing further scope.
17th or better is the plan...
17th or better is the plan...
Lord Alfred
Striker
We had 22 points on board by Christmas day last season and O'Neill was already under serious pressure.[DOUBLEPOST=1379281381][/DOUBLEPOST]
The plan is flawed though mate.....imo.
King for a Day...
Winger
not the point. You're saying we have no chance of winning a game until then. I'm saying that is ridiculous. Whether or not Di Canio will be under pressure is not important. Maybe he will, maybe he won't. But your ultra-negativity is way over the top. Grow some balls man. We understand you don't like the manager. If he doesn't win a game before Christmas then I'll say it's high time to bring someone else in. But you are fabricating a past, present and future based on what your fortune-teller read in the stains on your sheets. It's beyond boring now.
Pepe
Striker
I think we will be ok, I have seen a lot of poor teams. It is not how we start after all nor will it do anyone any harm to have realistic expectations.
You will be able to throw a blanket over 8th to 17th come May.
Lord Alfred
Striker
Don't see it that way Pepe. I see under 10 points come Christmas and Short having (another) decision to make.
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mbmueller831
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They also have midfielders that can cover going forward. Having Barry and Bradley (2 defensive-minded CMs) in the middle allows Johnson, Gia, Colback, and Celutska to get up the field without always having to worry about the counter. If you only have 2 midfielders and 1 is constantly up in the box, you either leave yourself prone to the counterattack or the backs have to stay home.
For me the attack needs to go through the wings anyways. Jozy is an excellent striker, but he is not good back to the goal. He needs it facing the goal to be successful.
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The Exile
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more like 'This useless bugger is sucking a massive chunk of my wage budget and I can't get rid' imho.
We've never skimped on fees or wages under Short until this season, only stopping due to necessity, and I would be very surprised if we didn't go again next season provided we stay up. It'll be very interesting to see how much the likes of Vaughan, Larsson and Gardner are hoovering each week.
Flash Gordon
Striker
I think we've kept it pretty much the same. We don't need to reduce it substantially though, we just can't go and increase it substantially which is what you want us to do.
Lord Alfred
Striker
Have you never heard of a through ball....granted they're a rarity with our team but other teams have midfielders who can thread a pass through into a striker's path while he's facing goal. it doesn't have to come from the wings.[DOUBLEPOST=1379311838][/DOUBLEPOST]
Where do i suggest that?
What i did suggest was NOT signing 14 squad fillers. The players i did mention....Caulker, Redmond, McCarthy and Milner....seriously, apart from Milner where's the big wages?
Those 4 plus half a dozen of the ones we did sign wouldn't add anything to the wage bill over what we've spent and everyone keeps telling us it's not about transfer fees.
Flash Gordon
Striker
McCarthy and Caulker will be on £35-40k a week and Milner £80k. Add Redmond on roughly £25k and you've got a £9.5m wage bill then you still need half a dozen squad players. The biggest wages we will have paid this summer is Giaccherini on £30k. That's why we were buying from Italy.
Lord Alfred
Striker
Suppose you get what you pay for then......14 players signed for peanuts and not one of the fuckers has contributed significantly.
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