Lil Layne
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ShieldsBlackCat
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This witch-hunt against Hulk Hogan is really getting lame and frankly outdated.
Every 15 minutes?! He is barely on for 15 minutes over an episode! He is only on each episode these-days to come out at some point with a mic in hand to set up matches or to make life hard for Bully Ray.
SedgefieldMackem
Striker
And there lies your problem.
Impact is 2 hours on TV, but 80-85min long without adverts. Say Hogan - a man with no talents any more other than to say "brother" and put his hand to his ear - is on screen for 15 minutes, then nearly 20% of your "wrestling" show is watching this old man go through the motions on the mic. It's not even as though he can cut a decent promo.
I understand that you will leap to the defence of TNA whatever happens because you're a laughable, peabrained fanboy, but they are at the stage where their wrestlers are late getting paid and some live shows are drawing only a couple of hundred people. That's not because their product is good.
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ShieldsBlackCat
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Easy to slag and bully the small, weak and vulnerable, isn't it. Makes you WWE fans feel hard as fuck, does it? Like I said, I wonder how well your precious WWE would fare with the same and much reduced financial outlay that TNA must operate as a viable concern with. I wonder if you would be so quick to jump on the bandwagon of TNA-haters.
Has it ever occurred to you that the reason why TNA cannot achieve great things is because it does not operate anywhere near the level the WWE in terms of it's outlay? The WWE can have a WrestleMania on the moon if it wanted to, such is the almost obscene amount of billions it has.
And what do you think happens the rest of the time when Hulk Hogan ISN'T on for a small spell? Theirs matches. Good ones.
SedgefieldMackem
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Laughable, peabrained fanboy.
If your head was any further in the sand, you'd be Dixie Carter.
Seriously though, Hogan and Brooke are god awful and can't be cheap.
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PixieFaceFTM
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Anyone read some of the tweets on the #AskDixie trend?
Seriously though i think the shit is starting to hit the fan for TNA.
This, I literally can't bare when either are on the screen and most of the time I turn over.
The lasses on TNA are much better than the divas and I do enjoy the majority of matches on TNA but Christ, the promos and mic work are god awful on TNA.
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SedgefieldMackem
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Anyone read some of the tweets on the #AskDixie trend?
Seriously though i think the shit is starting to hit the fan for TNA.
This had me in stitches:
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PixieFaceFTM
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One of my favourites was this :
"@AndrewdotA2M: #AskDixie if TNA has money problems, why did you buy a new X-division belt that's uglier than Brooke Hogan?"
FranzFerdinand
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Its easy to slag TNA because its turning into the last few years of WCW. They had a unique selling point in the ring and the wrestlers were peforming well. Bringing in ex-WWE talent has squashed the talent. There is a reason Vince releases his wrestlers, they dont make a good product for him.
Im not saying TNA couldnt be a good product, it could, theyve just made poor decisions lately as SedgefieldMackem noted.
Looking at it today, I could easily name over ten wrestlers who will make WWE even stronger. Thats because they have invested in their talent and promoted it. How many 'stars' are going to move TNA forward? Magnus is the one I hear talked about but thats clutching at straws, wouldn't even make the WWE mid card.
Im not a WWE only fan. Id watch TNA if the product was good, but just face it. Id rather watch an epsode of WWE Superstars then 2 hours of impact...
There is a reason why people slag TNA as a cheap WWE.....because they wanted TNA to be the 'next big thing'. Should have stuck to what they were good at and what made them grow in the first place.
Im not saying TNA couldnt be a good product, it could, theyve just made poor decisions lately as SedgefieldMackem noted.
Looking at it today, I could easily name over ten wrestlers who will make WWE even stronger. Thats because they have invested in their talent and promoted it. How many 'stars' are going to move TNA forward? Magnus is the one I hear talked about but thats clutching at straws, wouldn't even make the WWE mid card.
Im not a WWE only fan. Id watch TNA if the product was good, but just face it. Id rather watch an epsode of WWE Superstars then 2 hours of impact...
There is a reason why people slag TNA as a cheap WWE.....because they wanted TNA to be the 'next big thing'. Should have stuck to what they were good at and what made them grow in the first place.
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Lil Layne
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ChrisAshley
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Just watched Raw for the first time in a while, why the fuck is Cesaro with Jack Swagger as 'The Real Americans'?
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The Knockout division used to be class, so good they were often having the highest rated segments on TNA.
(Original) Beautiful People (w/ Mickie Knuckles), Roxxi Laveaux, ODB, Gail Kim and Kong (w/ Cheerleader Melissa) - all great and very entertaining, was gutted when Taylor Wilde beat Kong for the title.
A few years ago, TNA arguably had the best roster and a few brilliant selling points (X-Div World Cup and talent swapping with AAA and NJPW). Bringing in Uncle Eric and Hogan has killed them, if I ran the show, I would have brought in Raven to work with Russo, might have convinced Dreamer to head south too.
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SedgefieldMackem
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I was thinking about this earlier. Who could Dixie get in to save that product...
While I don't hate Russo, and I'm a fan of Cornette, I think that Gabe Sapolsky might be the dream hire.
It won't happen.
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IS THIS "THE END" FOR TOTAL NONSTOP ACTION? TNA has been going through financial issues againc based around doing the LIVE TAPING schedule outside of Orlando, Florida. It caused the company to shuffle its roster and release a lot of excellent talent to save money and to also request various front office employee's take pay cuts to stay on. In some circumstances the front office executives balked at this and simply gave notice (Bruce Prichard). In other areas the money being spent was not even considered to be reduced (Hogan & Bischoff) and it rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. TNA dumping Jesse Sorenson (who broke his neck working for TNA) rubbed people the wrong way, especially since he was promised he would always have a job with the company (guess he won't).
The major issues with Bruce Prichard allowing talent to leave, who TNA (Dixie Carter and others) wanted to not leave and not having all the talent licensed in certain regions to be able to work in those regions caused alarm within the organization and caused Prichard's decision to leave TNA to be one that not a lot of people blinked an eye at or were upset at happening.
One cut, D Lo Brown did rub people the wrong way. He was respected and well liked backstage. He ran most of the house shows and was in charge of being that guy for TNA.
Part of the rubbing of the talent the wrong way was RIGHT before releasing Sorrenson the talent was gathered in to a group and told there were not any FINANCIAL issues within the organization to be concerned about. And then talent was being cut left and right to cut the budget.
TNA also made the BOLD decision to release Ashley Cabot (27), who was out on "maternity leave" opening themselves up for a potential wrongful termimation lawsuit. WWE made sure to keep Kharma under contract with WWE for well after she had been away for "Maternity leave" even when the decision had been made that she wasn't going to be focused on or used when or if she was able to return to the company. They knew not only was it a sleazy move to make but one that is certainly against the law to make. While other companies in the past (including WWE) have released talent that had major injuries, the one glaring thing that is different here is TNA made a direct promise to Sorenson that he would always have a job.
Another thing TNA did that rubbed everyone the wrong way was to BOLDLY claim that one of the reasons why Bruce Prichard was done with TNA was based on his reluctancy to move to Nashville and that it wanted ALL of its executives to make the move to Nashville to remain with TNA, while the two highest paid executives in TNA are Hulk Hogan & Eric Bischoff and neither of them have or have been asked to make that move to Nashville to remain with TNA. TNA did this to attempt to hide the real reason that he balked at being paid less money to keep his job to help TNA save money.
The glaring issue with D Lo Brown was that he was asked to take a pay cut and agreed to take a pay cut. He was told he would not be paid on salary any longer and instead would be paid per shot. He was not against that and agreed to it. A few days after he had agreed to make the change to help TNA cut costs he was told things had changed and he was no longer working with the company.
Eight days prior to most of this Dixie Carter had everyone involved with TNA gathered for a meeting, even Jeff Jarrett appeared at this one (he had been done with TNA for quite some time and this was his first appearance back in an official capacity with TNA since he left).
Carter said the cuts had to be made for improvement of the organiztion and product (which is hilarious considering a lot of the cuts were VERY talented individuals that were simply not used correctly). She tried to make excuses about why TNA had begun falling back on paying everyone and that it was not something that was going to ever happen again. She denied they had major financial issues that caused them to fall behind on the pay of the talent. She blamed it on taping so many PPV shows in such a short period of time in Orlando, Florida and nothing else. But the real evidence is the money is being drained on a weekly basis by taping on the road and it is not something that can be undone.
To make it work more CUTS are emimant (which has all the talent on high guard and feeling really uneasy backstage). The irony of Carter attempting to use the PPV shows being taped in Orlando, Florida as the financial burden is the reason they did those shows in such a short period of time was to "save the costs" of doing LIVE PPV shows. The shows would have been less costly to do in a short period of time taping them all in Orlando, Florida with out the extra costs of transportation and other costs associated with running LIVE PPV shows as opposed to having a schedule that allows an organization to tape multiple shows at the same time with out creating all of those extra financial costs (so in other words, her story is bogus).
Almost EVERY TNA talent still employed with the organization at one point or another tried to see if they had the chance to work elsewhere (WWE for the most part) assuming "THE END" was coming.
The decision was made to offer John Gaburick the Bruce Prichard role behind the scenes in TNA, which means he is the head of talent relations and creative. Gaburick's take over means Al Snow was shifted to simply being a road agent (he had been Bruce Prichard's assistant).
There is talk that Gaburick won't be the head of creative and instead Eric Bischoff will resume that position, which was when TNA has the worst tv product.
There is still a lot of clammoring based around all of this and that TNA is simply going to find it difficult to survive when all the cuts are actually realized.
IS THIS "THE END" FOR TOTAL NONSTOP ACTION? TNA has been going through financial issues againc based around doing the LIVE TAPING schedule outside of Orlando, Florida. It caused the company to shuffle its roster and release a lot of excellent talent to save money and to also request various front office employee's take pay cuts to stay on. In some circumstances the front office executives balked at this and simply gave notice (Bruce Prichard). In other areas the money being spent was not even considered to be reduced (Hogan & Bischoff) and it rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. TNA dumping Jesse Sorenson (who broke his neck working for TNA) rubbed people the wrong way, especially since he was promised he would always have a job with the company (guess he won't).
The major issues with Bruce Prichard allowing talent to leave, who TNA (Dixie Carter and others) wanted to not leave and not having all the talent licensed in certain regions to be able to work in those regions caused alarm within the organization and caused Prichard's decision to leave TNA to be one that not a lot of people blinked an eye at or were upset at happening.
One cut, D Lo Brown did rub people the wrong way. He was respected and well liked backstage. He ran most of the house shows and was in charge of being that guy for TNA.
Part of the rubbing of the talent the wrong way was RIGHT before releasing Sorrenson the talent was gathered in to a group and told there were not any FINANCIAL issues within the organization to be concerned about. And then talent was being cut left and right to cut the budget.
TNA also made the BOLD decision to release Ashley Cabot (27), who was out on "maternity leave" opening themselves up for a potential wrongful termimation lawsuit. WWE made sure to keep Kharma under contract with WWE for well after she had been away for "Maternity leave" even when the decision had been made that she wasn't going to be focused on or used when or if she was able to return to the company. They knew not only was it a sleazy move to make but one that is certainly against the law to make. While other companies in the past (including WWE) have released talent that had major injuries, the one glaring thing that is different here is TNA made a direct promise to Sorenson that he would always have a job.
Another thing TNA did that rubbed everyone the wrong way was to BOLDLY claim that one of the reasons why Bruce Prichard was done with TNA was based on his reluctancy to move to Nashville and that it wanted ALL of its executives to make the move to Nashville to remain with TNA, while the two highest paid executives in TNA are Hulk Hogan & Eric Bischoff and neither of them have or have been asked to make that move to Nashville to remain with TNA. TNA did this to attempt to hide the real reason that he balked at being paid less money to keep his job to help TNA save money.
The glaring issue with D Lo Brown was that he was asked to take a pay cut and agreed to take a pay cut. He was told he would not be paid on salary any longer and instead would be paid per shot. He was not against that and agreed to it. A few days after he had agreed to make the change to help TNA cut costs he was told things had changed and he was no longer working with the company.
Eight days prior to most of this Dixie Carter had everyone involved with TNA gathered for a meeting, even Jeff Jarrett appeared at this one (he had been done with TNA for quite some time and this was his first appearance back in an official capacity with TNA since he left).
Carter said the cuts had to be made for improvement of the organiztion and product (which is hilarious considering a lot of the cuts were VERY talented individuals that were simply not used correctly). She tried to make excuses about why TNA had begun falling back on paying everyone and that it was not something that was going to ever happen again. She denied they had major financial issues that caused them to fall behind on the pay of the talent. She blamed it on taping so many PPV shows in such a short period of time in Orlando, Florida and nothing else. But the real evidence is the money is being drained on a weekly basis by taping on the road and it is not something that can be undone.
To make it work more CUTS are emimant (which has all the talent on high guard and feeling really uneasy backstage). The irony of Carter attempting to use the PPV shows being taped in Orlando, Florida as the financial burden is the reason they did those shows in such a short period of time was to "save the costs" of doing LIVE PPV shows. The shows would have been less costly to do in a short period of time taping them all in Orlando, Florida with out the extra costs of transportation and other costs associated with running LIVE PPV shows as opposed to having a schedule that allows an organization to tape multiple shows at the same time with out creating all of those extra financial costs (so in other words, her story is bogus).
Almost EVERY TNA talent still employed with the organization at one point or another tried to see if they had the chance to work elsewhere (WWE for the most part) assuming "THE END" was coming.
The decision was made to offer John Gaburick the Bruce Prichard role behind the scenes in TNA, which means he is the head of talent relations and creative. Gaburick's take over means Al Snow was shifted to simply being a road agent (he had been Bruce Prichard's assistant).
There is talk that Gaburick won't be the head of creative and instead Eric Bischoff will resume that position, which was when TNA has the worst tv product.
There is still a lot of clammoring based around all of this and that TNA is simply going to find it difficult to survive when all the cuts are actually realized.
Mr Redknapp
Striker
Its sad because WWE have the complete monopoly on the business and have lost their way because they do not have any competition to shake it out of complacency, They are more bothered about making money and appealing to more people through chasing demographics than creating believable characters and pushing them right.
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ShieldsBlackCat
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Do not insult my intelligence with that spurious, sanctamonious bile. Who for? You? SedgefieldTwat? Nobody cares one shiny shade of shite about TNA. All of you are glad it is failing as a company. Just because it will prove you right and is good for the image of the management who run the much sainted WWE.
Yet are 100% behind a company that get's its "talent" to splurt out in-front of the watching public tragic catch-phrases and then either screws them, get's them to lower themselves to the level of a children's TV presenter (Getting top superstars on big contracts to try to work with The Muppets on Monday Night Raw shows the intellectual level Vince McMahon thinks the fans have and is one of the most embarassing things I have ever seen) or virtually pushes them into an early grave. Oh, and then theirs the Invasion storyline in 2001? Vince had a massive chance to organise one of the biggest and most sensational storyline's ever; WWE against ECW and WCW and in so doing make every fan's dream come true. Every fan has wondered how the WWE would do in an actual battle against their rivals. And Vince for me fucked it up big time. Then theirs the WCW World Title match on the July 1 RAW. Everyone knows about how badly received the Buff Bagwell v Booker T match. Not one fan was engaged. They all were bored to tears.
The WWE has not got a flawless record.
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