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If KP misses Old Trafford who should replace him?

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Poor weather caused those draws, they were keenly contested.

Their top run scorer in 2006 and 2009.

I quote "the man they see taking over in the middle order in a couple of years"

I am not sure whether this is a compliment or a criticism.

Poor for the Lions in Bangladesh though.

As I said, groomed.

I think I would rather put the series beyond the Aussies before trying someone like Taylor.

You know exactly who I mean. I doubt they would have been so vitriolic in their pursuit of the lad if he hadn't stood in the way of a Yorkshireman (and fellow alumnus in Vaughan's case).

All opinions innit.

The main problem is how you accommodate Compton and Root in the same team. One or other, or Cook, would need to drop down the order.

Yes, I'm saying groomed as well. You level it as a criticism of Taylor, but ignore the fact that Compton has been touted for years. Taylor is the man they see in the middle order, Compton is the man they saw as an emergency replacement for Strauss. Taylor has more class in his left ball than Compton has shown in his entire career.

The Yorkshire mafia is completely in your mind, Root is the best batting talent in the Country.

As for the last paragraph: 1) Compton has spent more time at 3 than he has opening, 2) Cook/Root is the England opening partnership for the next decade, moving Cook (widely acknowledged as the best opener in the World) would be one of the most bizarre decisions in the history of Test cricket. I can't believe you typed it.

The Ashes are already won.
 
All opinions innit.

The main problem is how you accommodate Compton and Root in the same team. One or other, or Cook, would need to drop down the order.


I am confused by this statement.

What problem are you trying to fix here that you refer to as the "main problem"?
Also are you suggesting that one solution to this "problem" would be for Cook to drop down the order???

I know everyone is entitled to their opinion but suggesting Cook drop down the order is baffling.

I've got nothing against Compton, and he probably would have played more tests if England hadnt been pretty strong in the openers department for last 7/8 years, but is he that good? Harsh as it may be at the age of 30 it isnt worth investing in him, he should be apprecaited as a good stopgap in the aftermath of Strauss retiring nothing more.
 
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Compton was pushed aside as a result of Yorkies (Vaughan, SGB) lobbying hard to get both Root and Bairstow in the team. Compton should come in if KP is not fit and Root should drop back down the order.

This. Think Compton was slightly harshly treated, but at the same time didn't really get going. Deserves more opportunities.
 
I'd play Taylor but I've seen alot of posts saying he is 30? That isn't old in the slightest in cricket. Could have 5 years at the top at least.

He won't play, but I'd have no problem with Compton playing at 4. Could see him, Cook and Trott help post a massive total and there would be alot more pressure off him.
 
I'd play Taylor but I've seen alot of posts saying he is 30? That isn't old in the slightest in cricket. Could have 5 years at the top at least.

He won't play, but I'd have no problem with Compton playing at 4. Could see him, Cook and Trott help post a massive total and there would be alot more pressure off him.
He won't though, because he's just not good enough.
 
I'd play Taylor but I've seen alot of posts saying he is 30? That isn't old in the slightest in cricket. Could have 5 years at the top at least.

He won't play, but I'd have no problem with Compton playing at 4. Could see him, Cook and Trott help post a massive total and there would be alot more pressure off him.
He's 23 compton is 30

He won't though, because he's just not good enough.
taylor isn't good enough :-?

or is this a big case of crossed wires
 
Another vote for Taylor. Need the right mix of ages and to build experience for the team in 2-3 years once Pieterson is gone and Bel/Trottl on the way (and Bairstow dropped).

Need to do the same with a younger spinner which for me is the biggest issue right now, along with Prior replacement/backup.
 
Another vote for Taylor. Need the right mix of ages and to build experience for the team in 2-3 years once Pieterson is gone and Bel/Trottl on the way (and Bairstow dropped).

Need to do the same with a younger spinner which for me is the biggest issue right now, along with Prior replacement/backup.

I think Bairstow will be a regular for a good while. (and dont understand the constant criticism). Just needs to sort that shot where he turns the face of bat.

How old is Monty?
 
Another vote for Taylor. Need the right mix of ages and to build experience for the team in 2-3 years once Pieterson is gone and Bel/Trottl on the way (and Bairstow dropped).

Need to do the same with a younger spinner which for me is the biggest issue right now, along with Prior replacement/backup.

Agreed about the spinner, Swanny is 35 now and is probably already starting to think about when to hang up his boots, and unless Root turns out to be a proper all rounder - which I doubt, despite what he's done in the first 2 tests - we'll need a new front line spinner sooner rather than later.

I wouldn't say there was a great hurry to find Prior's replacement, I think there's a few years left in him for now.
 
Agreed about the spinner, Swanny is 35 now and is probably already starting to think about when to hang up his boots, and unless Root turns out to be a proper all rounder - which I doubt, despite what he's done in the first 2 tests - we'll need a new front line spinner sooner rather than later.

I wouldn't say there was a great hurry to find Prior's replacement, I think there's a few years left in him for now.

Panesar will be around 4-5 years after Swann raps it and then Borthwick comes in :-D
 
Agreed about the spinner, Swanny is 35 now and is probably already starting to think about when to hang up his boots, and unless Root turns out to be a proper all rounder - which I doubt, despite what he's done in the first 2 tests - we'll need a new front line spinner sooner rather than later.

I wouldn't say there was a great hurry to find Prior's replacement, I think there's a few years left in him for now.

Swan is 34 mate and will play for 3 or 4 more years
 
I think Bairstow will be a regular for a good while. (and dont understand the constant criticism). Just needs to sort that shot where he turns the face of bat.

How old is Monty?
Agreed

3/4 years younger than swanny I think

Agreed about the spinner, Swanny is 35 now and is probably already starting to think about when to hang up his boots, and unless Root turns out to be a proper all rounder - which I doubt, despite what he's done in the first 2 tests - we'll need a new front line spinner sooner rather than later.

I wouldn't say there was a great hurry to find Prior's replacement, I think there's a few years left in him for now.
Bairstow is a keeper as well, and then buttler could become a test player in the future
 
Agreed

3/4 years younger than swanny I think


Bairstow is a keeper as well, and then buttler could become a test player in the future

Buttler's looked quite good keeping in the one day games, it's his batting that looks more suspect to me. Bit of talk of him leaving Somerset so he can keep wicket somewhere so he's obviously thinking he needs that extra bow for England recognition.

Edit - and Bairstow's obviously got a slight error in his technique playing across to leg when he should be playing straight but there's plenty of players who've been guilty of that and sorted it out, not too worried about him.

Kerrigan seems to be doing well for Lancashire, think he'll be the next young spinner they'll be looking to get into the side although that might be a few years down the line depending on how Monty goes and hopefully, if unlikely, Borthwick really kicks on in the next couple of years.
 
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Swann 34
Kp 33
trott 32
Prior 31
Bell 31
Anderson 31
Panesar 31


Reckon Swann, Kp, Prior have 2/3 years left in tests.
Anderson, Trott, Bell 4 years imo.


Should be having look at that Kerrigan to replace Swann.
Bairstow could take the gloves from Prior.
Taylor for the middle order to replace KP.
 
I am not on glue but I do listen to TMS and often heard Vaughan, and others, saying Compton was not suitable for the opening place - unfairly in my view.

Conspiracy? Not for me to say.

Coincidence?
Again not for me to say.
 
I am not on glue but I do listen to TMS and often heard Vaughan, and others, saying Compton was not suitable for the opening place - unfairly in my view.

Conspiracy? Not for me to say.

Coincidence?
Again not for me to say.

Interesting to see they are the agency who represent our two brightest young stars Stokes and Borthwick who are both out of contract at the end of the season and also Buttler who has already informed his county Somerset he is off at the end of the season.
 
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