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2nd test - England v South Africa
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randle
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I'm going to suggest Broad will waste the new ball by bowling too short. Hopefully it will be a bit reverse psychology.
sonson
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I've often criticised KP for giving away his wicket too easily-and he does-but he puts you into a match winning position if he dosen't like nooone else in the world. The point is he could do it far more often than he does if he wasn't such a liability.
Would never have believed we would be in this poisiton after day one. Think the rain is going to work to our favour-shorten the match enough to keep them from posting a difficult lead and getting our wickets, but give us enough time to get them out and go for it.
Would never have believed we would be in this poisiton after day one. Think the rain is going to work to our favour-shorten the match enough to keep them from posting a difficult lead and getting our wickets, but give us enough time to get them out and go for it.
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randle
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I wish we had some more liabilities in the batting line up averaging over 49.
sonson
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Me too. But he *is* a liability. His high average comes from the fact that when he's not out he gets big scores, he tends to get little or loads. I'm only saying that he could stay in a get those high scores more often he was a bit more patient at getting himself in, I think it's difficult to argue otherwise
dangermows
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Pretty poor morning that.
Loved the trumpeters Christmas ditty to rip the piss out of the opener
Calling Pietersen a liability is embarrassing tbh. He wouldnt get the big scores if he played a more reserved/defensive game, which has been proven in the past.
Loved the trumpeters Christmas ditty to rip the piss out of the opener
Calling Pietersen a liability is embarrassing tbh. He wouldnt get the big scores if he played a more reserved/defensive game, which has been proven in the past.
dangermows said:Pretty poor morning that.
Loved the trumpeters Christmas ditty to rip the piss out of the opener
Calling Pietersen a liability is embarrassing tbh. He wouldnt get the big scores if he played a more reserved/defensive game, which has been proven in the past.
What's the crack with the Christmas song?
sonson
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Pretty poor morning that.
Loved the trumpeters Christmas ditty to rip the piss out of the opener
Calling Pietersen a liability is embarrassing tbh. He wouldnt get the big scores if he played a more reserved/defensive game, which has been proven in the past.
Why can't he do both? There are plenty others can. The consistently best batsman get in and make hundreds reguallry, so why can't KP? If he wouldn't get the big scores by taking a more measured approach then that just means he isn't as good as the best ones who can get big scores in all sorts of situations. They seem to be able to go after an attack whilst not giving away their wicket. Being reletnlessly bullish isn't the only way to get big scores.
As I stated before, on form he is the best in the world at dominating an attack. But he's either on form, or he telegraphs his intentions and is baited easily. He isn't reliable at all. Hence, a liability.
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ollie c
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Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer = Jack Rudolph batting
ProfessionalMackem
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Deleted member 35923
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sonson said:
How many test match hundreds has he got? How many runs has he got? What is his average?
An average of nearly 50 when you play your home test match cricket in a so called bowler friendly nation is absolutely superb. One of the greatest batsmen to ever play for England and in no way, shape or form a liability.
sonson
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Never said otherwise. But in comparison with other top batsman who regulalry posts hundreds and win matches, he's a liability. He either goes cheaply, or he posts a big number. He rarley posts big scores in sucsession, like the very best. You can't rely on him.
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sonson said:
Completely disagree as Pietersen does regularly post hundreds. But there you go.
sonson
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Give me an example of when he has put together two or three big scores back to back then, more than once? In a Test series he tends to give you one big innings out of six.
sonson
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Fair enough, but others have done it over decades, Kp certainly hasn't. Unquestionably an excellent batsman but I place the ability to win matches over technique, and there have probably been 7 or 8 batsman in the last ten years better than that than KP.
As an aside, I've no idea why they don't just call it a day here, clearly no-one is going to win.
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Mainze said:
Pretty sure he put some big innings together in the Ashes series when we were mullered in 06/07 (including a double ton)
sonson
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The fact that you can *sort of* remembered isolated moments when he has done it five years apart proves the point really.
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sonson said:
Not really. I just dont have an encyclopaedic brain. Especially when another poster has given examples of what you asked.
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sonson said:
Here is the list anyway of his ton+ scores.
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I have to disagree on the ability to win matches point. He is one of the few batsmen we have who can take the game away from the opposition, and normally very quickly. He is a world class player in all formats of the game and a genuine match winner. But anyway its just my opinion, yep this one is all over, its a must win for us next!
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