Too Many Loan Signings

[Scorer]

PVA was a big downgrade on Alonso, imo and I'm sure many on here. Ki was massive for us in the period of the season we played our best football, December through February, he basically made us tick. Borini was massive for us.

The point is, we have to sign four players at least just to stand still. Then more on top to improve.

For example, if Mvila, Toivonen and Yedlin become key players (very possible in case of the first two), we'll be dipping into our budget to sign two or three players (either signing them permanently or replacing them) just to stand still. I really don't feel it's a sensible way to implement long term success.

If you plan to have two or three loans it can because you can commit funds to transfers for two or three quality players and bring in loan players you couldn't usually get like Welbeck, Evans, Rose, Borini etc. if you end up with half a dozen then it's a challenge to replace them and gets in the way of developing your own players.

 

[GK]

Like nmfd, when mvila scored on Saturday I couldn't get excited as I would prefer different terms in his contract

 

[Perryqhill]

PVA was a big downgrade on Alonso, imo and I'm sure many on here. Ki was massive for us in the period of the season we played our best football, December through February, he basically made us tick. Borini was massive for us.

The point is, we have to sign four players at least just to stand still. Then more on top to improve.

For example, if Mvila, Toivonen and Yedlin become key players (very possible in case of the first two), we'll be dipping into our budget to sign two or three players (either signing them permanently or replacing them) just to stand still. I really don't feel it's a sensible way to implement long term success.

ki was a big player for us for a couple of months, that's all. Teams quickly worked out how we played, pressed us more and we couldn't cope with it. He lost form, carried and injury and left before the end of the season. Alonso was a big player for us for six months or so, as wed failed to get any kind of left back in during the summer. We replaced him quite well despite what it looks lime now and pva was just as important for us last season - watching us and the stats from last season tell you that. He was one of two players who got us out and got us forward with regularity and that's all Alonso did in a different way as he was quite poor defensively too. Borini was the big one, no question about it but we spent 10m on rodwell, 2.5m on Buckley and whatever it cos for Alvarez and Coates on loan. As ever its got nowt to do with loan signings and absolutely everything to do with spending money that has no impact on the first team. Losing bardsley and colback from the squad and having to replace them with Gomez and jones just compounded the problems and for all ki is a decent player his contribution wasn't big enough overall and colback was the bigger miss.

you keep banging on about having to sign those players to stand still, but that's not actually true in most cases. Borini for instance didn't even become a regular for ages, we didn't know where to play him and even up to the screamer he scored against the mags he was a sub and his form varied up until the end of the season. Alonso hit the ground running, but ki himself started slow, looked very impressive in poyets initial games then faded out. Had we signed all three wed have actually improved not stood still by virtue of the fact they would all be here from the start, all settled in for all of the season, which they weren't in there times here.