The famous NME and their taking of the Fulwell

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The fact remains that they hadn't gone in for a fight because they would've been battered through sheer weight of numbers if nowt else ........... as soon as the first punches were thrown they wanted out.

I've been in the Newcastle section at SJP 3 times, over the years, including the Gary Rowell match when I cheered the goals and the play-offs when we were sussed.
The other time was the 1-1 draw when I was in the paddocks and legged it onto the running track when it got too scary.

That doesn't mean I've taken SJP and the Mags didn't take the Fulwell that day.

The sneaked in and ran out .............. well, the lucky ones did.
 


honest question riv as all this was before my day and frankly Im not arsed about the whole hollie thing.

Did you ever go in mob handed and if not why not ?

Like I said not looking for a reaction just a general question.
 
honest question riv as all this was before my day and frankly Im not arsed about the whole hollie thing.

Did you ever go in mob handed and if not why not ?

Like I said not looking for a reaction just a general question.

Not as far as I know.

It was very difficult to get into SJP as a Sunderland fan.

The only time I paid in was the 1-1 draw and I had my 14 year old brother-in-law with me which made it easier. I was in the season ticket section, thanks to a Mag family member, for the Gary Rowell hat-trick match and we got tickets from Charles Harrison for the play-off game.

The best effort, I know of personally, was from a bunch of Sunderland lads was the crew from the Horden/Shotton area. They arrived around 2pm in Newcastle when everyone was still on the streets and in the pubs .......... they let it be know they were Sunderland and walked through the town to the ground. No one tried to lay a finger on them despite them passing various pubs, like the Dog & Parrot.

That was without any police presence or means of eascape if it went wrong.

The Mags in the Fulwell end sneaked in, in 2's and 3's, then left when they were sussed. They were helped out by the police when the Sunderland, at the front, were trying to drag them back in. They had a police escort to the Roker End and only started acting big when they were nearly there.

The two things don't compare in my view.
 
Interesting stuff but at the end of the day, SAFC have some hard and mental fans and NUFC have some hard and mental fans.

It makes me laugh when rival fans claim they're tougher and madder when they all come from the same areas anyway.

Or that one set of fans or an entire city are incestual paedo wimps when the fans of the 2 clubs can come from any part of the region.

I look forward to the day when we can stand side by side on the terraces and enjoy a traditional NE derby without the fear of violence spoiling an afternoon of well contested but fair football.
 
Interesting stuff but at the end of the day, SAFC have some hard and mental fans and NUFC have some hard and mental fans.

It makes me laugh when rival fans claim they're tougher and madder when they all come from the same areas anyway.

Or that one set of fans or an entire city are incestual paedo wimps when the fans of the 2 clubs can come from any part of the region.

I look forward to the day when we can stand side by side on the terraces and enjoy a traditional NE derby without the fear of violence spoiling an afternoon of well contested but fair football.

That's not the point of the thread though, to be fair.
 
Interesting stuff but at the end of the day, SAFC have some hard and mental fans and NUFC have some hard and mental fans.

It makes me laugh when rival fans claim they're tougher and madder when they all come from the same areas anyway.

Or that one set of fans or an entire city are incestual paedo wimps when the fans of the 2 clubs can come from any part of the region.

I look forward to the day when we can stand side by side on the terraces and enjoy a traditional NE derby without the fear of violence spoiling an afternoon of well contested but fair football.

Newcastle fans always claim they are more loyal too, it is in their blood apparently , even though many share the same bloodline as us.
There are simply more of them than us.
I often find the most vociferous Mags are A) not from Newcastle and B) Not match goers.
 
Newcastle fans always claim they are more loyal too, it is in their blood apparently , even though many share the same bloodline as us.
There are simply more of them than us.
I often find the most vociferous Mags are A) not from Newcastle and B) Not match goers.

to be fair iv never claimed this.

Sunderland / newcastle fans are more similar than both care to admit i reckon. Same working class backgrounds etc.

Yes we get more fans but id expect that after the last 25 years events.
 
Yeah I was there and we were on the open side of the ground iirc.
There were more Sunderland than they'd expected and we had most of the end and half the side, I reckon, but Brighton seemed to take offence at that for some reason.

I thought it was funny mesel :-D


thats not the match I meant, we were behind the goal next to their fans, we had a small section and we only had about 200 there, they thought there were only 200 so they came in but our 200 didn't let em stay too long. Now it was amusing to see them scarper double quick, it was cloudy and with a touch of rain if that helps )
 
That's not the point of the thread though, to be fair.

But for each NUFC who has done x at Roker Park/SoL there'll be an SAFC fan who has done y at SJP or wherever.

The only way to settle the 'who is hardest' arguments would be to get 10, 100 or 1000 of both sets of fans and leave them to it.

This avoids the risk of innocent bystanders getting in the way for the heinous crime of watching the match! :)

...I often find the most vociferous Mags are A) not from Newcastle and B) Not match goers.

I know a few in the area where I live and it's a 50/50 split between the gobshites and the OK ones. The older they are the more reasonable they are in general.
 
The fact remains that they hadn't gone in for a fight because they would've been battered through sheer weight of numbers if nowt else ........... as soon as the first punches were thrown they wanted out.

I've been in the Newcastle section at SJP 3 times, over the years, including the Gary Rowell match when I cheered the goals and the play-offs when we were sussed.
The other time was the 1-1 draw when I was in the paddocks and legged it onto the running track when it got too scary.

That doesn't mean I've taken SJP and the Mags didn't take the Fulwell that day.
The sneaked in and ran out .............. well, the lucky ones did.

taking an end is where the fans used to go in mob handed (like the mags did) but then rush the home supporters, scattering them everywhere. west ham/chelsea used to do this a bit (never up north) and that is taking an end.
What the mags did was come in our end and make themselves known and get escorted out - no attempt to actually take the end.
It still took balls and takes the piss a bit, but on the scale of things isnt too big a deal tbh.
 
Taking an end was going in to the home end, standing your ground, through whatever means possible and forcing the home fans out. This has never happened at Roker or the SoL by the Mags.

to be fair iv never claimed this.

Sunderland / newcastle fans are more similar than both care to admit i reckon. Same working class backgrounds etc.

Yes we get more fans but id expect that after the last 25 years events.

My eyes must be deceiving me, a sensible Mag. :mad: ;) There's two of them now, Shints and Cyril.
 
thats not the match I meant, we were behind the goal next to their fans, we had a small section and we only had about 200 there, they thought there were only 200 so they came in but our 200 didn't let em stay too long. Now it was amusing to see them scarper double quick, it was cloudy and with a touch of rain if that helps )


I was at the game you're on about, just before christmas I think. We were in the open corner, to the left of the home end, as you look at the pitch. A mob of them had come in and mingled right at the back.
Just after kick off they let it be known who they were, and a big brawl broke out. It was a proper battle, not like the mags in the fulwell, where hardly a punch was thrown. After a couple of minutes they were forced to retreat down the steps, and eventually through a gate into the home section. Remember being suprised that Brighton had a game mob like that, I'd been there a few times and it always seemed like a sleepy seaside town.
 
I took the Gallowgate in Febuary 1990 then, right at the front, me one of my mates and Disco Dave, we celebrated when Marco scored and never got attacked, I was 15.
 
I was at the game you're on about, just before christmas I think. We were in the open corner, to the left of the home end, as you look at the pitch. A mob of them had come in and mingled right at the back.
Just after kick off they let it be known who they were, and a big brawl broke out. It was a proper battle, not like the mags in the fulwell, where hardly a punch was thrown. After a couple of minutes they were forced to retreat down the steps, and eventually through a gate into the home section. Remember being suprised that Brighton had a game mob like that, I'd been there a few times and it always seemed like a sleepy seaside town.

Your two are doing my head in :confused:

When I think back to the only time I've been to Brighton I remember us being in an open terrace at the side of the pitch near between one of the goals and the halfway line .......... there was a small covered end, to our left, which I remember had seats.

There were Sunderland people in half of that up to the back of the goal.

I hope someone can confirm it 'cos it seems so clear in my memory.
 
the writer forgot about the bennet monkey chants then...

He also forgot to mention that the Mags in the Fulwell were all wearing wigs .............. either that or his 80 skinhead NME mates were at another match where they took the Fulwell End.
 
He also forgot to mention that the Mags in the Fulwell were all wearing wigs .............. either that or his 80 skinhead NME mates were at another match where they took the Fulwell End.

If you read it properly it says they evolved from a group of skinheads which is true - all of the lads in the Fulwell that day were young (18-21) casuals and were NME.

I'm pretty sure I know the lad who wrote the article - he's lived all of his life in a town in East Durham dominated by mackems - and he will be well known to a few people on here. I can confirm he was a total lunatic back in the day. Once saw him try to take a seated paddock at Millwall Den with one other Durham lad in about 1993.
 
If you read it properly it says they evolved from a group of skinheads which is true - all of the lads in the Fulwell that day were young (18-21) casuals and were NME.

I'm pretty sure I know the lad who wrote the article - he's lived all of his life in a town in East Durham dominated by mackems - and he will be well known to a few people on here. I can confirm he was a total lunatic back in the day. Once saw him try to take a seated paddock at Millwall Den with one other Durham lad in about 1993.

I don't think anyone should be made to do that ........... more flannel than the changing rooms at Durham cricket ground :roll:
 
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