Englands Middle Order

  • Thread starter NOMOREFALSEDAWNS
  • Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
N

NOMOREFALSEDAWNS

Guest
It will be interesting to see how the 6,7,8 order is placed.Ali,Stokes,Buttler would be my order.Ali is a batter who can bowl,Stokes a bowler who can bat so the two all rounders should come first then the wicketkeeper.With Broad in at 9 who looks to be rediscovering his batting form that is a long tail.The management have to get the 678 positions in the right order as it could make the difference between winning the Ashes back or not.
 


it wont change from what it has been and ali been mainly a batter which he isn't for England and whatever stokes is mainly has nothing to do with where buttler should be
 
i agree that after 5 wickets down, the team who scores the most will win the series. as for the order, i suspect it will be stokes, buttler then ali.
 
NOMOREFALSEDAWNS said:
It will be interesting to see how the 6,7,8 order is placed.Ali,Stokes,Buttler would be my order.Ali is a batter who can bowl,Stokes a bowler who can bat so the two all rounders should come first then the wicketkeeper.With Broad in at 9 who looks to be rediscovering his batting form that is a long tail.The management have to get the 678 positions in the right order as it could make the difference between winning the Ashes back or not.
Click to expand...
I think you're wrong about Stokes, he's a batter who can bowl (quite well) and he's been more successful as a batter. (2 hundreds+2 fifties against 1 five-for - in Tests.

We don't know if Ali will be playing, I think they may be in two minds on playing Rashid.

But the main think is a line up of Stokes Buttler and Ali has been deemed to be successful so there's next to no chance they'll change it.
 
I think Buttler is better than Stokes and Ali. Moeen is probably a slightly more consistent batsman than Stokes, but we've seen with Stokes if you bat him at 8 he bats like a number 8 batsman - I'd go Buttler, Stokes, Ali, Wood, Broad, Anderson.
 
Dexter said:
I think Buttler is better than Stokes and Ali. Moeen is probably a slightly more consistent batsman than Stokes, but we've seen with Stokes if you bat him at 8 he bats like a number 8 batsman - I'd go Buttler, Stokes, Ali, Wood, Broad, Anderson.
Click to expand...
Stats say Stokes is a better batsman than Modern but Bowling-wise Ali is ahead
http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/content/player/311158.html - Stokes
http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/content/player/8917.html - Modern
 
Dexter said:
Not really that fair of a comparison seeing as they've both played so few tests.
Click to expand...
now I like Ali as I've said before but 11 matches isn't enough data? Plus remember that Ali is a more experienced cricketer than Stokes.
 
NOMOREFALSEDAWNS said:
It will be interesting to see how the 6,7,8 order is placed.Ali,Stokes,Buttler would be my order.Ali is a batter who can bowl,Stokes a bowler who can bat so the two all rounders should come first then the wicketkeeper.With Broad in at 9 who looks to be rediscovering his batting form that is a long tail.The management have to get the 678 positions in the right order as it could make the difference between winning the Ashes back or not.
Click to expand...

Did you see the series against NZ?? If so, why the fuck would you move Stokes AGAIN?
 
NOMOREFALSEDAWNS said:
It will be interesting to see how the 6,7,8 order is placed.Ali,Stokes,Buttler would be my order.Ali is a batter who can bowl,Stokes a bowler who can bat so the two all rounders should come first then the wicketkeeper.With Broad in at 9 who looks to be rediscovering his batting form that is a long tail.The management have to get the 678 positions in the right order as it could make the difference between winning the Ashes back or not.
Click to expand...

No, Stokes is a batsman who can bowl. He has to bat 6, moving him is literally mental.

Bairstow should be playing for me.
 
Dexter said:
I think Buttler is better than Stokes and Ali. Moeen is probably a slightly more consistent batsman than Stokes, but we've seen with Stokes if you bat him at 8 he bats like a number 8 batsman - I'd go Buttler, Stokes, Ali, Wood, Broad, Anderson.
Click to expand...

I agree, Buttler is too good to bat 7 and needs moving into the top 6.
 
johnson said:
No, Stokes is a batsman who can bowl. He has to bat 6, moving him is literally mental.

Bairstow should be playing for me.
Click to expand...
In for. who

johnson said:
No, Stokes is a batsman who can bowl. He has to bat 6, moving him is literally mental.

Bairstow should be playing for me.
Click to expand...
If Bell or Ballance fail in first test he will be in but they deserve a chance to redeem themselves but the pressure is on both.
 
Northern Tiger said:
I agree, Buttler is too good to bat 7 and needs moving into the top 6.
Click to expand...

For who??? The lower order is fine, far brace got it spot on.

Stokes just got the 2nd ever fastest test 100 for an Englishman , and 90 odd in first innings, and yet people will still move him, crazy!

Dexter said:
I think Buttler is better than Stokes and Ali. Moeen is probably a slightly more consistent batsman than Stokes, but we've seen with Stokes if you bat him at 8 he bats like a number 8 batsman - I'd go Buttler, Stokes, Ali, Wood, Broad, Anderson.
Click to expand...

He just scored the 2nd fastest ever test 100 for England, crazy to move him
 
NOMOREFALSEDAWNS said:
In for. who


If Bell or Ballance fail in first test he will be in but they deserve a chance to redeem themselves but the pressure is on both.
Click to expand...

That would be wrong imo, they either play at least the first 3 games and are given a fair chance or we should drop them now before it starts if the belief in them is that low.

Bairstow should stay playing county cricket for now.
 
imo its going to be the expected until at least the third test. if losing they may bring in hales, rashid, if winning or drawing, then if no injuries, the same xi the full series
 
The problem is simply that right now we have an embarrassment of riches in the middle order and not so many in for the top four.
 
i expect in cardiff, cook, lyth, ballance, root, bell, stokes, buttler, ali, broad, wood, anderson
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Back
Top