Australian Open Final

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Always been this way.

I'm not a Murray hater, want him to do well, but even going back several years, you see Federer, Djocko et all make a mistake and quickly shake it off, while when Murray screws up he slumps back to the baseline muttering to himself looking like a petulant spoilt child about to burst into tears cos his mam says he can't have any ice cream

In a game where focus and accuracy are so important that fractions mean the difference between winning and losing, it's amazing to me that he seems incapable of improving this side of his game, no matter what he is capable of physically when he's on top of his game. It's the mental difference that separates him from the true greats.
The moment he started shouting up at his coaching staff was the moment Djokovic knew he had him... You're right that it's the one difference because physically he's at least as good as Federer and Djokovic now.
 
Djokovic is totally different off court and in interviews, a lot more relaxed, decent and often funny.

Murray does an advert on the telly over here for Rado watches. He runs an assault course of everyday items on the way to practice then says "OK - Time to play". Four words, five syllables. He manages to make them more dull, lifeless and boring than you'd ever think possible. How does an athlete get through a public life with such a dour, boring personality?
 
Bit harsh. Wouldn't have won the fifth set at the US Open against Djokovic after losing the 3rd and 4th if he was so mentally weak.

There's a reason Djokovic has won this four times before and is by far the best player in the world.
Under Lendl who wouldn't allow him to get negative during games. He's the only coach that's managed to get that into Murray's head.
 
Swapping Lendl one of the all time greats for Mauresmo a renowned bottler is the move of a loser.

Lendl was probs too demanding of him and Murray had a huff.
 
How did Murray get on then?

I'm asking the sensible people, not the people who chuck their toys out the pram whenever Murray loses any match and calls him a bottler?
 
Swapping Lendl one of the all time greats for Mauresmo a renowned bottler is the move of a loser.

Lendl was probs too demanding of him and Murray had a huff.

Murray didn't really have a choice as Lendl moved on to new things, mainly golf & spending time with his family.
 
How did Murray get on then?

I'm asking the sensible people, not the people who chuck their toys out the pram whenever Murray loses any match and calls him a bottler?

Evens after two sets.

Two games up in the third.

Now look at the final score and you decide.
 
How did Murray get on then?

I'm asking the sensible people, not the people who chuck their toys out the pram whenever Murray loses any match and calls him a bottler?
Played really well in the first 2 sets and could have easily been 2 up, started the third well too then just lot it.
 
How did Murray get on then?

I'm asking the sensible people, not the people who chuck their toys out the pram whenever Murray loses any match and calls him a bottler?

Lost the first set - really tight and went to a tie break. Won a Cracking second set, again really tight. Started the third brilliantly and then completely crumbled. Shame as he was playing some fantastic tennis.
 
Evens after two sets.

Two games up in the third.

Now look at the final score and you decide.


Looks like he's had a mare in the final set, how much is down to him and how much down to Djokovic genius?

My question is because nobody what happens people call him a bottler if he doesn't win. I've seen Federer beat him in finals with performances of sheer genius, and people still shout that he's bottled it. It's just that he isn't quite as good as Fed, Nadal and Djokovic. No shame in it.

Lost the first set - really tight and went to a tie break. Won a Cracking second set, again really tight. Started the third brilliantly and then completely crumbled. Shame as he was playing some fantastic tennis.

Fair play, cheers mate
 
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