Lot to be said for this… especially when we need to stop chasing wins and start looking solid to make sure we don’t get dragged into a dogfight at the bottom.
It’s not data driven at all is it. It’s extremely scatter gun in its approach. We were playing high energy high tempo stuff. The recruitment didn’t match and as a result Mowbray’s hand was forced and we ended up with the slow sideways/backwards possession based crap we see week in week out. We don’t have the players to go back to playing that way. We’ve forced the lad who could link us out the club. It’s a complete mess. The blame lands firmly on the DOF desk.
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Can definitely see us going 5 at the back for the next 2 games given who they’re against.
Yep, as i acknowledged. Which is why as i say, i think the players we have are the problem. not that they aren't good enough individually, but that there isn't really a formation that suits the collection we have.
I was up for 09 as a CDM until seeing more of what seelt is like as a CB. i'd really worry with him in a back 4 along with styles at LB.
The formation is def the problem what’s the point in having wingers that can’t cross because they are on their wrong foot but then don’t particularly have a good shot cutting inside , they need to be getting down the line and putting balls across it encourages everyone to get on the box
Been a problem all season playing Roberts and Clarke as inverted wingers.
No point putting crosses into the box when there's nobody there to get on the end of them. We're risk adverse. No runners busting a gut to get into the box. I can't see us moving away from this trying to play out from the back. Until then it's compact in the middle, backwards and sidewards passing, making it difficult for teams to break us down and hoping we can nick something on the break or from a set piece.
If only we had 2 or 3 lads who have Championship experience like a Batth or a Pritchard or a Gooch.
Dont have to switch to 442 just keep same formation and swap the wingers sides it’s piss easy for a defender to get back In position and head away an in swinging cross when the winger is constantly checking his run onto his other foot it’s also impossible for people to make runs into the box as you can just play them offside you can’t do that as a defender with ball played in across them for them to run onto or attack all the defence has to do as it stands us keep tight and hold the line the striker can’t run onto the box by the time the winger has got it onto his good foot he’s offside or the defender is up his arse againNo point putting crosses into the box when there's nobody there to get on the end of them. We're risk adverse. No runners busting a gut to get into the box. I can't see us moving away from this trying to play out from the back. Until then it's compact in the middle, backwards and sidewards passing, making it difficult for teams to break us down and hoping we can nick something on the break or from a set piece.
We're not gonna switch to 4-4-2 and start having wingers getting to the byline and whipping the ball in. We don't have enough bite in midfield to allow flair players to shine because Jobe and Ekwah just amble about half arsed with their little passes that go nowhere quickly and result in us giving the ball away too easily.
You will see Dodds experiment tactically with a 3 or 4 at the back but ultimately the players simply aren't good enough.
I'm sure Beale despite being hopelessly out of his depth was decent tactically but the players were not able to implement his instructions. If anything relies on the players not being shit we're gonna struggle. If only we had 2 or 3 lads who have Championship experience like a Batth or a Pritchard or a Gooch.
I hear what you're saying mate but we don't play that way. At all levels we have a way of playing and it's supposed to be drilled into them from a young age. We play out from the back and try and draw teams on to us to create space. The idea itself isn't a bad way of operating and it's much better than lumping it forward for a targetman to flick on or hold up and bring others into play. My point is that the players we have in the starting 11 are not good enough to play the way they're being asked to play. They don't have the quality or experience needed at this level. It will stand us in good stead if we persist with it but who wants to endure pathetic performances now because we might be canny in a few years time? The not deviating from the model or being flexible enough to make adjustments to it will ultimately be our downfall. If you go and replace men with boys who aren't ready you're a disaster waiting to happen.
