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Worse than Mankad


When you’ve tapped your foot back in and the umpires handing a hat back while the square leg umpire is moving towards the stumps, you as a batsman would think that’s the end of the over.

Bairstow has been shite since this test and England didn’t deserve to win, but he was the victim of some classic convict shithousery here
 
If you leave your window open, you give someone the opportunity to burgle your house.

Never met an Aussie in my life who gave a shit about sportsmanship or etiquette. After Starc tried to claim a catch where he rubbed the ball on the ground, was anyone still fooled into believing they'd changed?

They're a bunch of cheating scumbags, and they always will be.
 
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The umpires were as guilty as bairstow tbh. It's as if once bairstow had ducked, everyone just moved on. The umpires shouldn't have moved until the ball was actually dead. They are moving before Carey even has a proper hold on it. It's snidey but bairstow is still an idiot for no awareness. Doesn't look behind, doesn't tap his bat in, just a little kick at the crease and just wanders away. Meanwhile Ben stokes has his back towards everything as he is getting back into his crease waiting for over to be called
 
SAFC11 said:
The umpires were as guilty as bairstow tbh. It's as if once bairstow had ducked, everyone just moved on. The umpires shouldn't have moved until the ball was actually dead. They are moving before Carey even has a proper hold on it. It's snidey but bairstow is still an idiot for no awareness. Doesn't look behind, doesn't tap his bat in, just a little kick at the crease and just wanders away. Meanwhile Ben stokes has his back towards everything as he is getting back into his crease waiting for over to be called
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Square leg wasn’t even looking. Disgusting from the Aussies
 
brandon said:
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I’d tend to agree, atleast with a mankad a batsman is gaining an advantage by leaving his ground - Bairstow wasn’t attempting a run today, there was no intent whatsoever to gain an advantage.
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But he was stumped, not run out. No batsman who is stumped is seeking to gain any advantage. It’s a hard lesson to learn but Bairstow is a pro and should be more switched on. I’ve kept wicket in the past and done the same as Carey, as have most keepers at some point or other. It’s usually done to pick up on carelessness from the batsman.
 
nowtgoodeverhappens said:
But he was stumped, not run out. No batsman who is stumped is seeking to gain any advantage. It’s a hard lesson to learn but Bairstow is a pro and should be more switched on. I’ve kept wicket in the past and done the same as Carey, as have most keepers at some point or other. It’s usually done to pick up on carelessness from the batsman.
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Would you be OK with England mankading Smith, Warner and Labashaugne next test?
 
rentaghost said:
As said a mankad isn’t as bad because at least it’s getting out a batsman out who is seeking an advantage. If you have no issue about yesterday you should have less of an issue with a mankad with or without warning.
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Particularly after the new clarification that you can’t fake complete your bowling action and then do it, I see nothing at all wrong with a Mankad. You have to commit a pretty egregious false start to get caught these days, and you don’t deserve sympathy in my view.

Edit: Also I don’t think many have NO issue about yesterday, but it was still avoidable with a bit more awareness. This lot aren’t your best mates Jonny. They’ll take every underhand chance.
 
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Fleagle said:
Particularly after the new clarification that you can’t fake complete your bowling action and then do it, I see nothing at all wrong with a Mankad. You have to commit a pretty egregious false start to get caught these days, and you don’t deserve sympathy in my view.

Edit: Also I don’t think many have NO issue about yesterday, but it was still avoidable with a bit more awareness. This lot aren’t your best mates Jonny. They’ll take every underhand chance.
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a Mankad is shit. In local cricket ive seen bowlers trying it more often and just taking a chance that the player just drags his bat out at the last second even if he is in the crease. Its the easiest problem in the world to solve at international level by declaring one short for any run scored when a non striker leaves the crease early. It would make it pointless for a player to do so and make mankading unnecessary.
 
sonson said:
Carey threw it before he left the crease. He was basically counting on JB doing a repeat of the same stupid behaviour he'd been doing all over. And JB obliged.
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Exactly. He was in his crease after the ball had been played and was settled 8n the keepers gloves. Dead ball.
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No batsman who is stumped is seeking to gain any advantage.
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So you play all of your shots from the crease do you? Of course you're trying to gain an advantage, by playing the ball nearer where it pitches.
 
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nowtgoodeverhappens said:
But he was stumped, not run out. No batsman who is stumped is seeking to gain any advantage. It’s a hard lesson to learn but Bairstow is a pro and should be more switched on. I’ve kept wicket in the past and done the same as Carey, as have most keepers at some point or other. It’s usually done to pick up on carelessness from the batsman.
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Argue the semantics if you want, I too have been a wicket keeper, if a batsman stands out of his ground and/or advances after playing a shot that’s one thing - but in this instance Bairstow thought the over was completed (as it was), marked his guard and is making zero attempt to affect a run.
 
essex boy said:
Maybe what Australia could have done is warned Bairstow before doing it
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Why would they bother? It's not like a mankad where he was trying to gain an advantage.

They saw an opportunity to get him out for free so they did, if they warned him then what would they gain?
 
If every dismissal was either a mankad or a Carey, then cricket is pointless. Would people be happy to see a hat trick taken by these methods for a team to win the game? If not, then Bairstow should be not out.
 
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