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Wolves, Brentford and Burnley

These are certainly three of the 6 or 7 clubs who we will be competing against to avoid relegation basically any one in who finished in the bottom half except Man U and Spurs.
 

Kidder_wolf_ii said:
If all our new signings totally flop then yes you might finish above Wolves.

Very unlikely though but stranger things have happened. You’ve got a lot of young players who could easily freeze or excel in a higher league.

Rival fans (and media pundits) seem to think Wolves only 2 decent PL players are Cunha and Ait-Nouri but completely forget we also have Agbadou, Toti, Mosquera, Gomes, Andre and Strand-Larsen. Same applies to Brentford as they have some very good PL standard players who don’t get the coverage they deserve.

I’m actually quite excited to see who we bring in with our £100m transfer kitty.
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£80 million and you can have Poveda
 
Just enjoy it. pointless speculating and worrying, it isn’t going to mean a thing.

But I reckon if we do finish above Brentford, Burnley and Wolves then we have one hell of a chance of staying up.
Kidder_wolf_ii said:
If all our new signings totally flop then yes you might finish above Wolves.

Very unlikely though but stranger things have happened. You’ve got a lot of young players who could easily freeze or excel in a higher league.

Rival fans (and media pundits) seem to think Wolves only 2 decent PL players are Cunha and Ait-Nouri but completely forget we also have Agbadou, Toti, Mosquera, Gomes, Andre and Strand-Larsen. Same applies to Brentford as they have some very good PL standard players who don’t get the coverage they deserve.

I’m actually quite excited to see who we bring in with our £100m transfer kitty.
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Any of those could walk past me in the street with a wolves strip on and their squad number on the back and I’d still have no idea who they were.

Same with the Fulham and Brentford squads. Just sounds like a Footy Manager 2045/46 regen squad.
 
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I'm in something of a quandary for next season - as some of you know from previous posts, I'm a Wolves fan who's lived in the NE for 20 years now, and I started taking my lad to Sunderland games at the end of the L1 season.

We've had season cards the past three years, and did the early bird renewal for 25/26 too. This upcoming season is the first where I've got a genuine conflict of interest.

I've read this (and the other Wolves thread) with interest, but we currently have a good manager, money in the bank, and had a strong-ish finish to the season. Unlike the start of the last two seasons (Lopetegui walking out, G'ON finishing the previous season on a rotten run of form) I have no concerns about 25/26 for Wolves.

Brentford will likely lose their manager, possibly keeper, and possibly Mbeumo as well, but odds are they'll replace them well, in the same way that Brighton have continued to improve year on year.

The PL is turning into a closed shop, with the same 17 clubs entering their third year together, which means 3 more years of payments and signings than those coming up have managed. I'm working on the basis that both Leeds and Burnley have had churn, and SAFC have obviously been away since 2017.

So while I think Sunderland finishing ahead of Burnley is possible, given they built their Championship season on a miserly defence and not scoring goals, I think it's a tall order to catch Brentford. Which means even if you do finish ahead of Wolves (& Burnley), you need to overhaul at least one other team. Leeds the more obvious shout but they've had an additional couple of weeks of PL planning given they didn't take the playoff route.

Come back and bump this post in 12 months' time but it wouldn't be any major surprise if the three who come up this season, are the three who go down next, again.
 
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We can finish above Brentford who finished tenth in the prem but no mention of Leeds who finished 2nd in the championship? 😂

Make it make sense.
 
I’d take being in with a chance of staying up with a few games to go at this stage. We’ve got a lot of work to do just to compete
 
Keith S30S said:
I certainly haven't.

We were better than Burnley in both matches last season. They had a very good defence and not much else. I don't see them spending a fortune and I think they will finish bottom.

Leeds bullied teams by simply having a very good Championship squad loaded with goals. They wouldn't be bullying anyone in this league. They have an outside chance of stopping up same as us.

We need half a dozen good signings ready for the Premier League to stand a chance. Big ask.

Last season Palace and Wolves flirted with relegation for half the season. They changed managers and pulled away. If they had got the managerial appointment wrong they could have struggled. They'll be other teams on the same boat next season.
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Palace didn't change manager, it was a slow start to the season due to players away at international tournaments.
 
Zak's Dad said:
Not to put a dampener on things but we were not the best team in the league by some distance, we were fourth.
And although we got promoted via the play offs there was an element of good fortune attached to our promotion over all three matches.

The fact that so many promoted teams get instantly relegated shows the gulf between the top of the championship and the bottom of the premiership.

We'll need a sizable budget spent wisely, good coaching and more good fortune to stand a chance of staying up.

Fingers crossed!
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Agree but we did come 5th in league one and then 6th in championship. Completely understand this a different kettle of fish but a few shrewd additions could make a big difference.
The three that came down last year didn’t spend their money wisely, let’s hope we do.
 
hls said:
People are honestly overestimating how difficult next season is going to be 😉
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100% this! People comparing us to Leicester, Sheff Utd, Southampton, Burnley etc. are forgetting that there was clear reasons why all of those were obviously coming straight back down. We're a completely different case.

On the flip side, you've got Luton, one of the poorest sides to make it out of the Championship in recent memory, who spent absolutely no money, and they were 6 points off. It absolutely can be done and is not as impossible as it is made out to be. People need to have a bit of faith.
 
samsafc said:
Agree but we did come 5th in league one and then 6th in championship. Completely understand this a different kettle of fish but a few shrewd additions could make a big difference.
The three that came down last year didn’t spend their money wisely, let’s hope we do.
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Oh I'm in no way writing us off, I'm hoping the team and the players keep developing and we buy well enough to give it a go.

But before we start discussing the shortfalls in teams that have spend 200, 300, 400 or 500 million quid to strengthen, we need to spend well to bolster our 16 million pound team to reach their level first.

Best time to have this conversation is just before the season starts when the squads of all teams are much clearer.
 
Paddock Poster said:
More negative than I expected. Has everyone given up hope already?
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It’s called facing up to reality.

We’ll see what the set up of the squad is at the time of the first game or when the summer window closes….but right now, it would be VERY hard to compete with the squad we have.
 
SurreyMackem said:
These are certainly three of the 6 or 7 clubs who we will be competing against to avoid relegation basically any one in who finished in the bottom half except Man U and Spurs.
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Spurs to go down quite nice at 40-1 imo.

Squad is nowhere near ready to play Champions League football in the week and there will be a circular firing squad if the new manager gets off to a bad start. Will Levy back him as well? He often doesn’t.

Great price for a speculator.
 
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