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Woltemade wants away
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Whitburnmakem
Striker
He’s got 1 less than brobbey who supposedly does suit us
What is he suited to then? He's as weak as piss for a big lad.
KittenMittens
Midfield
In 1,100 minutes vs 1,634, starting 33% of games vs 58%.
There's a player in Isidor. He is a very good finisher, very composed. Brobbey brings more than goals, and is rightly in the team given our needs, but I think Isidor is the better goalscorer.
Isidor would be great if all opposition teams were high pressing but they aren't. His general footballing attributes are rather limited.
His best career season, at Stuttgart prior to joining the mags, that was exactly how they played him. It's also how, in the main, he's been played by the national team.
Howe has basically tried to turn him into a type of player he's never been. After his form dipped post the derby, he's threw him under a bus by either playing him completely out of position or having him on the bench. That says more about Beheaddie's inflexibility to change his team's set up than Woltemade's abilities as a footballer, for me.
They paid at least half more than his true value imho. £25-30m would have been great business, maybe even up to €40m. But his career stats, and where he's actually played, should have been enough evidence of it being a huge gamble.
He's only came into the national team picture really recently at senior level too, mostly due to injuries to the normal first choices.
Maybe. Back to Stuttgart?
But no way are the mags recouping their outlay. Plus arguably they've damaged his progress too.
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times 1000.And this
He can hold the ball well to bring in other players, he has good footwork and can ping balls about for team mates. He also actually has a decent shot and good crossing ability. Like a few lanky players he's weirdly not great in the air challenging but does have a good header.
Imho his biggest falling so far has been adapting to the pace and physicality of the PL. He doesn't really have a burst of pace and isn't robust. Add in the inability of Howe to adapt his tactics to suit his record signing, as well as whatever else is going on behind the scenes,which sees him benched for a lot of games and I'd say he's regressed since he arrived at the Mosque on the Mound.
Is he currently a £65m PL striker? Clearly not. Is he a shite footballer and a carthorse? Clearly not.
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errant
Striker
tame mag i know says this is pretty much the biggest problem, apparently isak played a pressing game & supposedly covered a decent amount of ground without the ball - whereas woltemade has an entirely different ability with none of the attributes for the press.
No he doesn't hold the ball well. He can easily be knocked off it by opposition players.His best career season, at Stuttgart prior to joining the mags, that was exactly how they played him. It's also how, in the main, he's been played by the national team.
Howe has basically tried to turn him into a type of player he's never been. After his form dipped post the derby, he's threw him under a bus by either playing him completely out of position or having him on the bench. That says more about Beheaddie's inflexibility to change his team's set up than Woltemade's abilities as a footballer, for me.
They paid at least half more than his true value imho. £25-30m would have been great business, maybe even up to €40m. But his career stats, and where he's actually played, should have been enough evidence of it being a huge gamble.
He's only came into the national team picture really recently at senior level too, mostly due to injuries to the normal first choices.
Maybe. Back to Stuttgart?
But no way are the mags recouping their outlay. Plus arguably they've damaged his progress too.
This
And this
He can hold the ball well to bring in other players, he has good footwork and can ping balls about for team mates. He also actually has a decent shot and good crossing ability. Like a few lanky players he's weirdly not great in the air challenging but does have a good header.
Imho his biggest falling so far has been adapting to the pace and physicality of the PL. He doesn't really have a burst of pace and isn't robust. Add in the inability of Howe to adapt his tactics to suit his record signing, as well as whatever else is going on behind the scenes,which sees him benched for a lot of games and I'd say he's regressed since he arrived at the Mosque on the Mound.
Is he currently a £65m PL striker? Clearly not. Is he a shite footballer and a carthorse? Clearly not.
He's the ultimate square peg in a round hole as long as Beheaddie continues to persist with his kick and rush, 100mph break out football. If he tried perhaps to actually play football, pass the ball, hold onto possession, build from open play he'd imho get better performances from Ole St Nick sitting as a #10 with players moving around for him to link with.
But he doesn't really seem to have the players, or the inclination, to shift from his stubborn, inflexible position.
There also must be a lot more going on behind the scenes as all the talk from the orcs on socials is of his sticking with favourites whilst not playing signings that cost over £150m.
He does and he has, his purple patch when he first arrived and was full of confidence. Clearly the OG at the SoL affected that and seems to have been something of a catalyst for whatever falling out went on between him and Howe.
But as I've posted he has struggled with both the pace and physicality of PL football. Wirtiz was the same at Liverpool, but they actually stood by him and have seen improvements. Woltemade hasn't had that benefit.
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Gucci Massive
Striker
The Toonminator (Washy Mag on X) will have to change his profile pic again. It was Isak and he changed it to Wolfy. I think he might have deleted his account though after their latest derby defeat.
DrewC
Striker
Drain the wages from the filth love it
You've clearly seen him in different games to me then
Loads of speculation about split dressing room due to the Isak saga, Beheaddie sticking with his favourites and of course enjoying seemingly untouchable status from his tame journos. Add in the flops they've spent millions over the odds for and no amount of team photos can take away from there being something rotten in Jawdee Hawrabia.
Clivewalkershair
Midfield
Zak's Dad
Striker
Was one of them for us
The most important one was.
forever changes
Winger
Not every footballer wants to be a circus performer too
I watched/watch a lot of Bundesliga. He had the best ever season of his career by a countrymile for Stuttgart and even then wasn't their best player. Most improved? Maybe given where he was when he arrived.You've clearly seen him in different games to me then
When the mags first signed him I was surprised they even had him as a target and aghast that they'd been absolutely dry bummed by Stuttgart in terms of the fee.
Had they got him for half the cost and stated that he was being gradually brought into the first team, no pressure, work in progress etc, then it would have been better for all concerned.
Cox Green Fc
Striker
That Bayern Munich chairman or whoever he was was spot on tbf haha
