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Winter 2020 cricket Aus, NZ, SA

HarrogateMackem said:
:oops: That bowling line up for Aus, with the newly found Cam Green, is looking very very strong.
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Phenomenal front 3 pace attack - would give mcgrath, Gillespie, Lee or mcgratg, clark, Lee or harris, johnson, siddle ( I know he's the weak link but the other two in 2013 were incredible) a run as their best pace trio for the last 20 years.
Still got Pattinson who can come into the team too.
 

Sorry but Tim Paine is not a good Captain he just has a world class attack

it’s a piece of piss when you have bowlers
scotch said:
Phenomenal front 3 pace attack - would give mcgrath, Gillespie, Lee or mcgratg, clark, Lee or harris, johnson, siddle ( I know he's the weak link but the other two in 2013 were incredible) a run as their best pace trio for the last 20 years.
Still got Pattinson who can come into the team too.
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absolutely

I said all year that England didn’t get enough credits for their 2-2

which was immediately after a World Cup win when their minds were elsewhere, would have won if not for rain at lords too

Cummins is best bowler in the world for me
 
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The Rat said:
Sorry but Tim Paine is not a good Captain he just has a world class attack

it’s a piece of piss when you have bowlers


absolutely

I said all year that England didn’t get enough credits for their 2-2

which was immediately after a World Cup win when their minds were elsewhere, would have won if not for rain at lords too

Cummins is best bowler in the world for me
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Yep without Jimmy from the very first afternoon onwards too.

Not to mention Steve Smith also, have you seen his scores from his last 12 innings?

82
80
23
4
36
43
16
85
7
63
1
1*

Last century was at Old Trafford. England would have won the series at a canter if had produced those scores.

As much of world class player Smith is I've always wondered whether his exceptionally high scoring against England are as much down to England's idiotic bowling plans to him as it seems other teams have worked him out a bit more.
 
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Sharpshooter said:
Yep without Jimmy from the very first afternoon onwards too.

Not to mention Steve Smith also, have you seen his scores from his last 12 innings?

82
80
23
4
36
43
16
85
7
63
1
1*

Last century was at Old Trafford. England would have won the series at a canter if had produced those scores.

As much of world class player Smith is I've always wondered whether his exceptionally high scoring against England are as much down to England's idiotic bowling plans to him as it seems other teams have worked him out.
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Woakes had bowled himself into the ground with all the white ball games by the time the Ashes started and Wood was out injured too
 
Sharpshooter said:
Yep without Jimmy from the very first afternoon onwards too.

Not to mention Steve Smith also, have you seen his scores from his last 12 innings?

82
80
23
4
36
43
16
85
7
63
1
1*

Last century was at Old Trafford. England would have won the series at a canter if had produced those scores.

As much of world class player Smith is I've always wondered whether his exceptionally high scoring against England are as much down to England's idiotic bowling plans to him as it seems other teams have worked him out.
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Its interesting Smith aye, he hasn't been the same player last year

Harsh on England ike they tried bowling just line and length all day

I think in that series in England it was just a player on absolute top of his game, in Australia we didn't have the attack

Maybe you are right

just think though if Smith didnt play in that series (big if) it could have been a 3 or 4-0 to England,

Its the best series I have seen by an individual player in my years watching it, just ridiculous, its why Paine just nout special as captain

we'd also have walked it with a fit Jimmy in England
 
The Rat said:
just think though if Smith didnt play in that series (big if) it could have been a 3 or 4-0 to England,
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He's averaged 137.4 and 110.6 in the last two ashes series which is insane. He'll probably find form again this time next year for England but if he did produce those sort of scores England would stand a very good shot of winning the Ashes next year. You minimise Smith's dominance and its a wide open series for sure.
 
The Rat said:
Sorry but Tim Paine is not a good Captain he just has a world class attack

it’s a piece of piss when you have bowlers


absolutely

I said all year that England didn’t get enough credits for their 2-2

which was immediately after a World Cup win when their minds were elsewhere, would have won if not for rain at lords too

Cummins is best bowler in the world for me
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I agree totally, that’s way I am surprised at your lack of credit you give to Rory Burns at times as thought he played really well in that series against a brilliant attack
 
Voice of fair play said:
I agree totally, that’s way I am surprised at your lack of credit you give to Rory Burns at times as thought he played really well in that series against a brilliant attack
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Lack of credit?

Not at all, I agree he did well that series, as did Denly

I've only ever said long term he will need to score more runs.

Never called for him to be dropped once like marra, stand corrected if I have
 
The Rat said:
Lack of credit?

Not at all, I agree he did well that series, as did Denly

I've only ever said long term he will need to score more runs.

Never called for him to be dropped once like marra, stand corrected if I have
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Yeah fair enough, just think considering how tough it was for both sides as opening batsman in that series he done exceptionally well, and his average is not as good as others due to a slow start to his career.
 
Voice of fair play said:
Yeah fair enough, just think considering how tough it was for both sides as opening batsman in that series he done exceptionally well, and his average is not as good as others due to a slow start to his career.
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I think his average is a true reflection of his ability personally

Maybe you are thinking of me on about his salary compared to Wood's, stand by that like, Mark Wood is a lot more important to England than Burns, and gets paid a third less!

He is defs in my Ashes team btw, just he will need to improve to stay in long term, he has the opportunity to do that though
 
Australia's tail is long, Cummings comes in when they're 6 down. That's mental.

Their batting line-up minus Warner, Smith and Labuschagne isn't special.

The Ashes are winnable.
 
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Just reading more about pucovski

he got a head injury playing AFL and was out of sport for 18 months

seemw like he’s my recovered

not sure you can pick him like. As talented as he is
 
wonder if any of the tests are in doubt?

Strictest in the world the aussies with the covid stuff

not saying they are remotely wrong, but reading the headlines everywhere about an outbreak of 17 cases, the drama, imagine if that was the least of our troubles? :lol:
 
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