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Not bothered about touchscreen. Probably wouldn’t use it. I’ll defer a decision on an iPad until after I’ve had a new laptop for a bit. I may not feel the need.
 

Gazoliver

Winger
Not bothered about touchscreen. Probably wouldn’t use it. I’ll defer a decision on an iPad until after I’ve had a new laptop for a bit. I may not feel the need.
My thought was I wouldn't need a tablet if the laptop doubled up as 1.
I'm interested in cloud storage too. The 1 currys do looks quite competitive but I don't know of anybody who has it.
 

Scimmy

Striker
If you don't like the look and feel of Windows 10 and long for the Windows XP desktop/start menu you can download a piece of software called Classic Shell. I have it installed on my Windows 7 computer and it offers the familiar XP interface and also offers folder functionality enhancements.
 

joemcdokes

Striker
If you don't like the look and feel of Windows 10 and long for the Windows XP desktop/start menu you can download a piece of software called Classic Shell. I have it installed on my Windows 7 computer and it offers the familiar XP interface and also offers folder functionality enhancements.
It doesn't take much to get used to it.
I can't really remember the XP interface now.
I did a few tweeks with Windows 7 on my old PC but didn't even bother when it went to Windows 10 on it and this one I have now, there's probably loads of features I don't even use.
 
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Scimmy

Striker
It doesn't take much to get used to it.
I can't really remember the XP interface now.
I did a few tweeks with Windows 7 on my old PC but didn't even bother when it went to Windows 10 on it and this one I have now, there's probably loads of features I don't even use.
An example of Classic Shell goodness: One of the things I hated about Windows 7 is when you have a folder open with many items in it and you want to delete all items except one or two. In XP you could select the ones you want to keep, then click "invert selection" and then hit delete. In Windows 7 you had to individually select all the items you wanted to delete as there was no "invert selection" option. Classic Shell restores the "invert selection" option. Has this functionality been restored in Windows 10?
 
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joemcdokes

Striker
An example of Classic Shell goodness: One of the things I hated about Windows 7 is when you have a folder open with many items in it and you want to delete all items except one or two. In XP you could select the ones you want to keep, then click "invert selection" and then hit delete. In Windows 7 you had to individually select all the items you wanted to delete as there was no "invert selection" option. Classic Shell restores the "invert selection" option. Has this functionality been restored in Windows 10?
No idea, I'll take a look for you. 👍
Yes there is an invert selection.
When you have a folder open, it's in the Home tab.
 
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PTR

Striker
It doesn't take much to get used to it.
I can't really remember the XP interface now.
I did a few tweeks with Windows 7 on my old PC but didn't even bother when it went to Windows 10 on it and this one I have now, there's probably loads of features I don't even use.
Windows 10's interface has changed from the launch version anyway.
Its really Windows 11 by now.
 

Kevj

Striker
Windows 10's interface has changed from the launch version anyway.
Its really Windows 11 by now.
And they plan to update start visually soon too. They recently introduced a new innovation to office to ‘streamline’ the ribbon. What they’ve really done is revert to an older format taskbar at the top with a drop down ribbon if you want it.
 

joemcdokes

Striker
Windows 10's interface has changed from the launch version anyway.
Its really Windows 11 by now.
I used to love fixing problems with old windows versions. :lol:
And they plan to update start visually soon too. They recently introduced a new innovation to office to ‘streamline’ the ribbon. What they’ve really done is revert to an older format taskbar at the top with a drop down ribbon if you want it.
I still haven't stuck Office on my new PC even though I can get the full lot legit for about a tenner.
 
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Scimmy

Striker
No idea, I'll take a look for you. 👍
Yes there is an invert selection.
When you have a folder open, it's in the Home tab.
Cheers for the research! I'll still be sticking with my trusty old 7 for the time being. It works great and I'm familiar with it.
 
If you don't like the look and feel of Windows 10 and long for the Windows XP desktop/start menu you can download a piece of software called Classic Shell. I have it installed on my Windows 7 computer and it offers the familiar XP interface and also offers folder functionality enhancements.
Thanks. That might very well be what I’ve got now.

I think I might hold on to my old laptop while I load up the new one and see how I like w10. I can always go with Classic Shell (which I was calling a ‘skin’ earlier) if I can’t get on with it.
 

Scimmy

Striker
Thanks. That might very well be what I’ve got now.

I think I might hold on to my old laptop while I load up the new one and see how I like w10. I can always go with Classic Shell (which I was calling a ‘skin’ earlier) if I can’t get on with it.
I temporarily "upgraded" from 7 to 10 when MS were offering a free upgrade. I fired it up after the upgrade and hated it instantly. Why? The desktop looked like it was designed by Fisher-Price or Tonka Toys. All the available desktop background colours were bright and brash with no ability (at that time, maybe it has been improved) to adjust them, so for example I was unable to make my desktop a soothing dark maroon or British Racing Green. So it failed for me at the first hurdle and back I went to infinitely adjustable Windows 7.
 

Roger

The Gaffer
Staff member
I temporarily "upgraded" from 7 to 10 when MS were offering a free upgrade. I fired it up after the upgrade and hated it instantly. Why? The desktop looked like it was designed by Fisher-Price or Tonka Toys. All the available desktop background colours were bright and brash with no ability (at that time, maybe it has been improved) to adjust them, so for example I was unable to make my desktop a soothing dark maroon or British Racing Green. So it failed for me at the first hurdle and back I went to infinitely adjustable Windows 7.
You can, and always could make your desktop any colour you want in Windows 10 just like Windows 7.

Whilst I think Win 7 was excellent, from a user point of view Windows 10 really isn't all that different unless you are using it in Tablet Mode.
 

cook

Winger
Just joining the thread. Bought myself a new laptop as a lockdown treat. Saved a fortune not doing / going anywhere.

Anyway, tried to get Microsoft Office through the Home Use Program with work, recognised the work e-mail saying I was eligible, but then won't work with personal e-mail. Over an hour on chat support to Microsoft and got fucked off saying they need a code.

Still want Office, I'm used to it, and use it at work so want to stick with it. Always preferred having it installed on the computer but the way forward seems to be the online version? Just not paying their full price mind. Are ebay codes safe?

Still need to download a few bits onto the new one, but once done I'll be wiping the old laptop and the bairn can then use it for school until he gets one through high school.
 
An example of Classic Shell goodness: One of the things I hated about Windows 7 is when you have a folder open with many items in it and you want to delete all items except one or two. In XP you could select the ones you want to keep, then click "invert selection" and then hit delete. In Windows 7 you had to individually select all the items you wanted to delete as there was no "invert selection" option. Classic Shell restores the "invert selection" option. Has this functionality been restored in Windows 10?
You beat me to it. I have Classic Shell on different systems and love it. I struggle without a 'Proper' Start menu and dread if Classic Shell ever stops supporting the latest Windows.
 

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