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Will Grigg's on fire, signed!

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kildaremackem said:
maguire has been an adequate signing...what i expopected really...


getting a lot closer to league one teams first eleven than embelton..at ayounger age..oh anff the club rewraded that with a contract he already signed..he was a higher priority than embleton because he has achieved more..
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In that case I seriously question your judgment. I fully respect your opinion but totally dissagree
 
samaistonsrightfoot said:
Do you think he's had a negative affect on us?
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maguire has been positive..though whether successful..well when you sign a player and he cant get in the team a few months later? depends on whether they thought he would be in the team now whether he has achieved what they have in mind..nbut overall has made a positive contribution..
 
kildaremackem said:
the owners have offered him acontract...the club arent trying to be self suffient this year or next year..what problem fdo you have? they have ofered him a contract...my point is, he just might not be that good, he is outr third best prospect and the height of his career is his work at grimsby..
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Get in! He’s already improved from fourth best to third best in the last few minutes (according to your good self).
Maybe by tea time he will be the best prospect. What do you think?
 
kildaremackem said:
duncan watmore has played at a better level for england and there are many here who would bi him..


was just talking about upfront..they wanted a million he negotaited down..
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Some people think ironing their shirt while they are wearing it is a good idea. Not sure what any of that has to do with anything tbh.
 
samaistonsrightfoot said:
Probably because he needs to now to suit his argument. He's doing similar with Maguire now aswell.
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im not belitting anyone...embleton has achieved league two standard..he should be offered a contract and has been..i dont know where he fits into the first team anytime soon but should be given a contract for the years ahead..mumba is a gfar better prospect who at ayounger age is contributing more to sunderland now..
 
kildaremackem said:
maguire has been positive..though whether successful..well when you sign a player and he cant get in the team a few months later? depends on whether they thought he would be in the team now whether he has achieved what they have in mind..nbut overall has made a positive contribution..
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So he's been good for us then. Case closed on that one.

kildaremackem said:
im not belitting anyone...embleton has achieved league two standard..he should be offered a contract and has been..i dont know where he fits into the first team anytime soon but should be given a contract for the years ahead..mumba is a gfar better prospect who at ayounger age is contributing more to sunderland now..
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What has Mumba got to do with offering Embleton a contract or not?
 
samaistonsrightfoot said:
So he's been good for us then. Case closed on that one.



What has Mumba got to do with offering Embleton a contract or not?
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its about measing potential...im saying embleton isnt among the three best prospects at the club..mumba is,...and mumbas contarct was sorted some time ago,..so embleton is our foruth best prospect..that should put into conytext the level of money he gets offered and attention we pay to him..

joop said:
Get in! He’s already improved from fourth best to third best in the last few minutes (according to your good self).
Maybe by tea time he will be the best prospect. What do you think?
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depends on whether you regard maja as simply a prospect or say he has gone past that stage,...which would be my view..he isnt just a prospect he has arrived..
 
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Paul Cook could not have been more emphatic on the Will Grigg speculation: “Are we looking to sell players? No. Why would we? Will Grigg is one of the mainstays of my success here. Will knows what I’m waiting for to get him back in the team...Powell, Jacobs, Massey.”
 
samaistonsrightfoot said:
So he's been good for us then. Case closed on that one.



What has Mumba got to do with offering Embleton a contract or not?
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the maguire analogy is people over valued him earlier in the season..saying he should be in the scotland squad etc..now reality is hitting home..people are now over valuing embleton cos he had a good spell in the divisio n below us..short term thinking is almost always wrong..long term thinking helps unearth value..so I do the long term..embleton should be offered a contract commensurate with what he has achieved so far..and he has been..i dont know what the fuss is about?
 
kildaremackem said:
its about measing potential...im saying embleton isnt among the three best prospects at the club..mumba is,...and mumbas contarct was sorted some time ago,..so embleton is our foruth best prospect..that should put into conytext the level of money he gets offered and attention we pay to him..
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You've gone from rationalising him being binned because he can't get into the side over McGeady, to saying he should be paid what he is worth. I've not seen anyone say he shouldn't. And any decision on offering Embleton a contract or not should not be made and the basis of Mumba being offered one.

I give up on this thread.
 
samaistonsrightfoot said:
You've gone from rationalising him being binned because he can't get into the side over McGeady, to saying he should be paid what he is worth. I've not seen anyone say he shouldn't. And any decision on offering Embleton a contract or not should not be made and the basis of Mumba being offered one.

I give up on this thread.
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where is the bit where i said he should be binned?

samaistonsrightfoot said:
You've gone from rationalising him being binned because he can't get into the side over McGeady, to saying he should be paid what he is worth. I've not seen anyone say he shouldn't. And any decision on offering Embleton a contract or not should not be made and the basis of Mumba being offered one.

I give up on this thread.
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any decision on offerinf him a contract is based on potential..not what he has achieved now..so how do we price potential? well we price it based on age, achievementy so far for example, mumba has arguably achieved more at ayounger age..
 
rocky said:
Played league football at 16 and is in the squad regularly at 17. How many other players have we had in recent times to do that?
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I didn't mean it like that, I love Mumba

I think Embleton has achieved a lot too, that was my point, you know that, just decided to take something and twist it as usual
 
samaistonsrightfoot said:
You've gone from rationalising him being binned because he can't get into the side over McGeady, to saying he should be paid what he is worth. I've not seen anyone say he shouldn't. And any decision on offering Embleton a contract or not should not be made and the basis of Mumba being offered one.

I give up on this thread.
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so if the club are offering him what he is worth why has a thread started criticisng the owners?
 
KJNMackem said:
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Paul Cook could not have been more emphatic on the Will Grigg speculation: “Are we looking to sell players? No. Why would we? Will Grigg is one of the mainstays of my success here. Will knows what I’m waiting for to get him back in the team...Powell, Jacobs, Massey.”
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if the player wants to go he can say what he likes but whats the point in keeping dissafected players....weve had plenty of experience of those !
 
The Rat said:
I didn't mean it like that, I love Mumba

I think Embleton has achieved a lot too, that was my point, you know that, just decided to take something and twist it as usual
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embleton has achieved a certain amount yes..but mumba has do e more for sunerland than embleton..
 
kildaremackem said:
where is the bit where i said he should be binned?
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What you suggest and what you say are two totally different things to be honest mate. You've done the same with Maguire - Suggesting we are a charity because he signed him and it was only good for him, before completely u-turning and saying he's been a positive for us.

Like I say, I cannot be arsed now. It's tiresome.
 
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