Why were Sunderland ships called Jamies?

[safcrob]

Was it because there's up on tyneside were called a geordy.

 

[Deleted User 11453]

Mackem history. What is a ‘mackem’?

The first hint of the term ‘Mackem’ or something similar, relating to ‘making’ rather than ‘building’ ships is 1857 and refers to an earlier period of the 1700s.

englandsnortheast.co.uk

Why Sunderland vessels were called Jamies is not clear but it may reflect some long-established connection with Scotland, perhaps relating to the Civil War of the 1640s when Sunderland welcomed the Scottish garrison whose soldiers subsequently besieged Newcastle. In our explanation of Geordie we know that during the 1715 Jacobite Rising, Newcastle supported King George (the Geordie supporters) rather than supporting James, the Old Pretender.

 

[Butcher's Coat]

Never heard of the term.
Served my time in the Sunderland shipyards in the mid to late 70's and have also known many an old seafarer/engineer.

 

[Arkle]

Some Cockney chef with a big tongue designed them?

 

[Cheesy Feet]

Served my time 1980-1984 at Sunderland Shipbuilders and was there till they closed..I have never heard that term before.

 

[Shandy drinker]

Served my time 1980-1984 at Sunderland Shipbuilders and was there till they closed..I have never heard that term before.

Nobody used the term Mackem either
It was known must rarely used

 

[Butcher's Coat]

Nobody used the term Mackem either
It was known must rarely used

I knew the term Mackem in the late 70's.
It was a derogatory term used by Tynesiders from how we pronounced make and take.

 

[Shandy drinker]

I knew the term Mackem in the late 70's.
It was a derogatory term used by Tynesiders from how we pronounced make and take.

I knew of it but rarely heard even amongst our friends from the north

 

[Cheesy Feet]

Nobody used the term Mackem either
It was known must rarely used

Agreed..coming towards the end of my apprenticeship I started hearing it..working with a time served player from Boldon he’d say I’ll Mackem and you tackem..you hardly heard mackem then like.

 

[Scotty]

I knew the term Mackem in the late 70's.
It was a derogatory term used by Tynesiders from how we pronounced make and take.

that was always how i was taught it

we mak-em, and they tak-em

 

[Shandy drinker]

Agreed..coming towards the end of my apprenticeship I started hearing it..working with a time served player from Boldon he’d say I’ll Mackem and you tackem..you hardly heard mackem then like.

Exactly the same for me serving my time from 82-86

 

[Exapno Mapcase]

I knew the term Mackem in the late 70's.
It was a derogatory term used by Tynesiders from how we pronounced make and take.

Could just as easily been Mak 'nd Taks which was the other one in common usage then