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Who's still backing Moyes?
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Grammar Police
Winger
So, in essence, he replaced shite going out and brought more shite in. Difference being he spent good money on shite, whereas he could have just signed up any old rabble on a free.Not many, but they were used during the season and needed replacing. Imagine who we would be playing now if we hadn't opted for numbers. Be a pre match raffle to make the numbers up
Moyes has made mistakes and people have plenty of ammo to fire but it's daft when people say he took over from where we left off.
You refer to Yedlin and M'Vila (the first teamers who'd left); these could have been replaced with two loans of equal standard. First team more or less as it was.
Then the transfer budget could have been used to actually improve the first team.
He succeeded on replacing the numbers; he didn't succeed in improving the first team. At all.
This is the point.
raven_5
Striker
No, it wasn't.
Palace also spent 1.7m per player. 8.5m on 5 players.
Got it wrong with 8m Papy, got it wrong with 13.5m Ndong, got it wrong with 5m McNair, got it wrong with the two loans... Give Moyes a fortune, Ellis, he'll find a decent footballer eventually, he might need 100m but he'll find one this decade!
WHD
Striker
Ranieri joined Leicester on 13 Jul 2015, and had his first game on 8 Aug 2015
Moyes joined Sunderland on 23 Jul 2016 and had his first game on First game 13 Aug 2016.
I'm sure those extra 5 days preparation Ranieri had made the difference between being league champions and being in a relegation battle.
Grammar Police
Winger
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The Hunt
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Yeah why not, might as well back him.
It's him or Pardew.
If we go down, we go down.
It's him or Pardew.
If we go down, we go down.
dangermows
Striker
A thirty million budget (let's not forget that doesn't mean up front) to bring in about twelve players, with only a few weeks isn't ideal, I'm sure you'd agree.
We have also had awful luck with injuries.
I honestly don't think many could've done too much with the hand he was dealt.
That's not to say he hasn't made mistakes mind.
WHD
Striker
So I was right he was here longer than Moyes
Lets sack Moyes cos we aren't winning the league then
I thought you might come back with that. The point is, it's a lame excuse.
Confucius
Striker
Ever since Bain came into the job, he's had ready made excuses for the new manager. It was obvious all along that no matter how poor the appointment was going to be, they were going to stick with it and they banked on Sunderland fans falling for the stability argument whilst ignoring the shite that Moyes has brought in and wasting what little money we had.
No, it wasn't.
Palace also spent 1.7m per player. 8.5m on 5 players.
Got it wrong with 8m Papy, got it wrong with 13.5m Ndong, got it wrong with 5m McNair, got it wrong with the two loans... Give Moyes a fortune, Ellis, he'll find a decent footballer eventually, he might need 100m but he'll find one this decade!
Think your numbers are way off. Benteke £32m, Townsend £13m, Tomkins £10m. Mandanda will be on a lot of wages I'd guess. You got a link to back your numbers up?
Again your criticising transfers but Moyes had 1 month to get them in. Ndong and McNair been poor but they are young players who could improve in the future. Moyes done well to reduce the average age of the squad and it shows hes here for the long term.
dangermows
Striker
Confucius
Striker
and so was WHD when he said "virtually the same time". The facts are out there with our league position, the points haul, the shite awful start, the poor signings, the wasted moneySo I was right he was here longer than Moyes
Lets sack Moyes cos we aren't winning the league then
Lets sack Moyes can't we aren't winning a game
Grammar Police
Winger
I agree regarding injuries, any side would be in the shit with an injury situation like that.
BUT...
He fucked up the transfer window. No ifs, no buts, and of course with the benefit of hindsight.
The hand he was dealt was ideal, IF, he was shrewd and as smart as his record at Everton would suggest. Sadly, that man seems to no longer exist.
Not really. I said it before......Moyes transfers would have been different if he had more time to prepare or was backed by a more ambitious owner.
I remember when he was at Everton he took great consideration when signing players, would make sure they'd been scout thoroughly. They had some cracking signings under him, hopefully he can do the same with us.
dangermows
Striker
Ive said it was a poor window, but can completely understand why too. Timescales and the owner didn't help at all.
Who'd you replace Moyes with then? Already had brilliant some shouts like Ally Mccoist and Peter Reid
Ellis Short is the problem at Sunderland, not David Moyes. I'm sure the penny will drop for some eventually.
Nil desperandum
Striker
It's infuriating and frankly unacceptable. We all know the odds are stacked against us to avoid the drop and we're also aware of the shocking series of injuries we've had but the way we've managed to pull ourselves together after some setbacks surely proves we're capable of getting results. It's surely an attitude thing or Big Sam unsettling the players.
Confucius
Striker
Ellis Short is part of the problem but that doesn't exclude MoyesWho'd you replace Moyes with then? Already had brilliant some shouts like Ally Mccoist and Peter Reid
Ellis Short is the problem at Sunderland, not David Moyes. I'm sure the penny will drop for some eventually.
You can laugh all you want about Managers I've never mentioned, but I'll tell you something, the Mags will be hoping we don't sack Moyes as well
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