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VAR has ruined top level football.


I honestly don’t know.

I’d hope that offsides could be automated, within a margin of error, that gave benefit to attacker

I’d then clarify the stupid “clear and obvious” thing.

I quite like the way rugby does it it.
We have some of the fittest Linos we’ve ever had who, by and large, keep up with play. If it isn’t obvious to the naked eye then just let the goal stand. Today’s match the Lino was bang in line, if it isn’t obvious to him then let it stand.
 
I honestly don’t know.

I’d hope that offsides could be automated, within a margin of error, that gave benefit to attacker

I’d then clarify the stupid “clear and obvious” thing.

I quite like the way rugby does it it.

If you think it's been implemented badly I thought you must have had a better idea. How would you transition what they do in rugby over to football? How would you clarity the clear and obvious thing?
 
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Every other sport has accepted technology except football fans . Don't anyone tell me that there isn't bad decisions made in other sports , Rugby for instance is constantly down to referee interpretation. It's the fact that football fans tend to go on absolutely ridiculous whilst other sport's fans have the maturity to accept decisions right or wrong .
 
We have some of the fittest Linos we’ve ever had who, by and large, keep up with play. If it isn’t obvious to the naked eye then just let the goal stand. Today’s match the Lino was bang in line, if it isn’t obvious to him then let it stand.

this.

it's not rocket science.

Ditch the lines, use VAR to call obvious mistakes and if they're not obvious then stay with the onfield decision.

That Coventry goal is not obvious. Assistant doesn't flag. Goal stands.
 
Not sure why you want to argue with me on this

It lacks consistency in application, including across games

The rugby “conversation” between officials is good

I'm not arguing marra. Genuinely curious. If you think something been implemented badly then I was just curious as to how you'd do it so it's better.

When you say conversation do you mean you would like to hear what the officials are saying?
 
Which picture? This one that allows the advantage to the attacker with the thicker line yet they still didn't overlap?

Also look at the lines near the linesman for a better perspective of how 'close' it was as it's not a toenail.

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What advantage.has he gained there? Is the game better or worse for having this shite every week ?

It's utter shite man..just let the refs and linesmen manage the game as they see it..
 
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I guess some don't realise that the bit 'going over the foot' is simply the vertical line as shown in the image below. Seeing as it's foot level it looks like that but you can see 1 square of the dotted line just above the boot. Either the person posting that is oblivious or just posting it for shit n giggles.

Also bear in mind that the VAR image they show on TV is now purposely poorer quality than VAR see and it's been like that all season so it's more blurry. The lines can be distorted as seen by the right of the red line being all over the place in that twitter image above.

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The Coventry goal was offside like
Was it though? The frame rates and clarity of picture mean they can't be sure exactly when the ball left the players foot.

I know we don't like Coventry and their fans are massive pricks, but them getting a goal in the 121st minute is what makes football great. These upsets happen far less these days against the big clubs such is their financial dominance. And the gap is only going to get greater.

Then we have the best element of football as a match going fan. That being celebrating a goal. Scoring a goal in those circumstances (if it was us) would arguably the best moment of our lives following sunderland. Taken away because some vague image determines a players toe is offside. It's just shit.
 
I'm not arguing marra. Genuinely curious. If you think something been implemented badly then I was just curious as to how you'd do it so it's better.

When you say conversation do you mean you would like to hear what the officials are saying?
In rugby, the on field official talks through the play with the video ref. That’s useful

VAR now seems to make a call to direct the official to the monitor, which has become a code for “you got it wrong, but I’m not making that call, it’s up to you”
 
this.

it's not rocket science.

Ditch the lines, use VAR to call obvious mistakes and if they're not obvious then stay with the onfield decision.

That Coventry goal is not obvious. Assistant doesn't flag. Goal stands.

Can you not see the problem there? The term 'obvious' is meaningless. What does it actually mean? If someone's offside they are offside, it's as simple as that. You can't say well he's offside but only be a bit so we'll let it go
 
Football has become completely soulless.

VAR
Taking knee (keep politics away from football)
No standing
Female commentators 🙄🙄
Constant diving
Characters thing of the past

Whole thing is so horribly sanitised now.
Respect is the mantra we supporters have thrust upon us but the FA and clubs still fawn over and take their money from Saudi.
 
ffs man it’s Coventry.
Remember , they cheated us , we were relegated.
Fuck them , that was about as sweet an offside decision as any Sunderland fan could ever hope for.
 
In rugby, the on field official talks through the play with the video ref. That’s useful

VAR now seems to make a call to direct the official to the monitor, which has become a code for “you got it wrong, but I’m not making that call, it’s up to you”

It's not code for nowt really. Would you like to scrap the monitor and just have the var official make the decision?
 
Can you not see the problem there? The term 'obvious' is meaningless. What does it actually mean? If someone's offside they are offside, it's as simple as that. You can't say well he's offside but only be a bit so we'll let it go
Has the ref made an obvious error? If you need to use video playback and draw lines across the pitch to judge then it's not an obvious error.
 
Can you not see the problem there? The term 'obvious' is meaningless. What does it actually mean? If someone's offside they are offside, it's as simple as that. You can't say well he's offside but only be a bit so we'll let it go

Should be if you can tell within 5 seconds of one replay at full speed. If you can't tell after that , then the on field refs decision stands

Only way to filter clear and obvious errors from marginal ones
 
Why does everyone always want rules that favour attackers? Day light between, second phase.... now its if he's just a bit offside still say he's onside.
Which picture? This one that allows the advantage to the attacker with the thicker line yet they still didn't overlap?

Also look at the lines near the linesman for a better perspective of how 'close' it was as it's not a toenail.

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Its absolutely offside. People are just being daft and dont like that a goal has been chalked off for a marginal offside.
 
If VAR's 'ruined' football then you probably never liked the sport that much anyway.

Ruined it ffs. Grown men don't half go on bairns when it comes to VAR and referees.

Don’t get your logic ?
The joy of football supporting is in the moment. VAR removes the moment.
Football is now for the armchair viewer i feel a sterile product for a market which thrives on analysis.
 
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