Stand to be proved wrong here but you wouldn't put an application into NEPL2 then fold.
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Stand to be proved wrong here but you wouldn't put an application into NEPL2 then fold.
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The Colonel
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You wouldnt have thought so would you? I just wish someone would come on here and tell everyone what the craic is with them.
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I think no matter how the grown ups mess up the leagues the under 11s should be left as pairs cricket, I think it is perfect that they all get a turn as each of them have a responsibility and have a chance to flourish, we need to remember that a lot of kids may be late developers and playing the game without paring means a lot of kids are just there as fill ins really which is not good as they may fall out of cricket before they begin.
Yes its great if your son bats in the top 4 or is a main bowler but what if he is on the verge and bats 6 or 7 etc…I think the change is when they are 13, thats when you see really good ones progressing and playing second team cricket if they are good.
I am not sure on why change it to 8 aside either, may change my mind but sounds silly. How do you police the strong teams who field 2 sides…You can't at that level so the stronger clubs can play their top lads in both sides say if one is rained off etc…I do understand that a lot of clubs just can't get 10 players but 8 aside is a little strange, would rather continue as is and every other game you lend a team a player or they are 1 or 2 short so be it.
I think under 11s should remain in pairs for the good of the game to keep attracting youngsters as they all get a turn. I also believe that they should remove the minus 8 rule for getting out when you can only score a maximum of 6 with one shot, especially as a lot of the kids may only get 4 or 5, runs 7 runs would be a top score for a kid under 11 who is not one of the star players so to receive minus 8 when out is harsh and should be reviewed….
Hope i don't sound rude here but I bet the main folks who want to stay coast league style under 11s are parents whose kids are the main players, but think of it this way, if your son is one of the main players and he doesn't block the shite out of it just to stay in for 15 - 20 overs of batting time he would probably face 12 - 24 balls to retire on his 20 if he is in the top 3 or 4 but usually around 14 balls, if he plays in pairs and its usually one strong one weak player he could possibly face 24 - 30 balls and possibly get a 50 so he would be better off anyway as usually the bigger stronger lads can hit 20 in an over or two anyway without slogging.
Just my opinion
Yes its great if your son bats in the top 4 or is a main bowler but what if he is on the verge and bats 6 or 7 etc…I think the change is when they are 13, thats when you see really good ones progressing and playing second team cricket if they are good.
I am not sure on why change it to 8 aside either, may change my mind but sounds silly. How do you police the strong teams who field 2 sides…You can't at that level so the stronger clubs can play their top lads in both sides say if one is rained off etc…I do understand that a lot of clubs just can't get 10 players but 8 aside is a little strange, would rather continue as is and every other game you lend a team a player or they are 1 or 2 short so be it.
I think under 11s should remain in pairs for the good of the game to keep attracting youngsters as they all get a turn. I also believe that they should remove the minus 8 rule for getting out when you can only score a maximum of 6 with one shot, especially as a lot of the kids may only get 4 or 5, runs 7 runs would be a top score for a kid under 11 who is not one of the star players so to receive minus 8 when out is harsh and should be reviewed….
Hope i don't sound rude here but I bet the main folks who want to stay coast league style under 11s are parents whose kids are the main players, but think of it this way, if your son is one of the main players and he doesn't block the shite out of it just to stay in for 15 - 20 overs of batting time he would probably face 12 - 24 balls to retire on his 20 if he is in the top 3 or 4 but usually around 14 balls, if he plays in pairs and its usually one strong one weak player he could possibly face 24 - 30 balls and possibly get a 50 so he would be better off anyway as usually the bigger stronger lads can hit 20 in an over or two anyway without slogging.
Just my opinion
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The Colonel
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Having looked at the Washington scorecards I put up its obvious to me now that having 6 or 7 lads who never bat is ludicrous and why pairs cricket at U11 should be the norm.
As for 2 teams, I dont know of any of the clubs who fielded sides in last years DSL U11 league who has enough players to field 2 teams. Some of them could barely get 1 out.
I think some clubs would like to think that they could field 2 teams but I think when they take stock of the situation they will find that they simply dont have the 20 to 22 players needed for this.
Also I dont think that you are supposed to mix and match teams. the point is that you name your sides, say reds and blues, and thats it.
My impression from looking at this thread is that junior cricket seems to have drifted away from its main purpose, to let kids enjoy themselves playing cricket, and hopefully help them develop into future cricketers at older age group and senior levels.
For me Under 11s is a no brainer. Having seen the odd game at my local club the kids are absolutely tiny, with 1 or 2 of the stronger, better players completely dominating. Pairs cricket is a must there IMO as its imperative that you keep 8-11 year olds interested, and you simply aren't if 4 or 5 kids are simply fielding.
Under 13s I see the argument for being 11 a side. The kids are a bit stronger and at 13 they may well be approaching senior cricket so its a good time to start playing 11 a side.
The arguments about 2 teams manipulating the teams when 1 is rained off seems a bit of a non argument to me. Yes now and again some idiot will start abusing the rules, but surely 90%+ of the adults running these teams would uphold the spirit of the game rather than look to get a cheap trophy at Under 11 level!! To me if a team wants to cheat that much just leave them to it and hope the league deals with it. As a player who played U13s and upwards I can honestly say I have zero recollection of what we won/lost at that age anyway. It seems to be the adults more interesting in the silverware.
For me Under 11s is a no brainer. Having seen the odd game at my local club the kids are absolutely tiny, with 1 or 2 of the stronger, better players completely dominating. Pairs cricket is a must there IMO as its imperative that you keep 8-11 year olds interested, and you simply aren't if 4 or 5 kids are simply fielding.
Under 13s I see the argument for being 11 a side. The kids are a bit stronger and at 13 they may well be approaching senior cricket so its a good time to start playing 11 a side.
The arguments about 2 teams manipulating the teams when 1 is rained off seems a bit of a non argument to me. Yes now and again some idiot will start abusing the rules, but surely 90%+ of the adults running these teams would uphold the spirit of the game rather than look to get a cheap trophy at Under 11 level!! To me if a team wants to cheat that much just leave them to it and hope the league deals with it. As a player who played U13s and upwards I can honestly say I have zero recollection of what we won/lost at that age anyway. It seems to be the adults more interesting in the silverware.
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My Opinion
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Fully agree, we have to ensure that we encourage kids to play at under 11s and we need to involve them as you will find a gem or two that unfolds later so no point shutting the door as some kids really don't develop till 13 so seems a shame to exclude when they are 7 - 11 as they are not the main players.
Under 13s is debatable, I would say that it seems a fine blend at the moment and again similar to under 11s, they are all still involved and have a chance to shine and some of the bigger kids will tell you pairs is better as at that stage the top players are hitting 50's so of course pairs cricket is good.
Under 13s also seems to have more cup options as well so there is more cricket and the better players are playing under 15s and second teams so again, just my option but I would leave kids cricket well alone and not mess it up…
The only thing we should change is the minus 8 rule for being out when the maximum you can hit is a 6.
T
The Colonel
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Sweeper; final meeting on this tomorrow night?
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The Colonel
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...any update?
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