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University student stabbed

Well I can agree with you there, on both sides of the race debate.

I do however not like seeing farage and his cronies throwing bins at the police turning it into a race thing. Inciting cold hard rage after this whilst after the cousins rape and murder he called for calm. Now that is a race thing pure and simple.
This is one of the pressures of policing - that mistakes that police make can have serious ramifications for society. I remain absolutely convinced that you can draw a line from the Rotherham Scandal to the popularity of Reform as a party in 2026.
 

The thread is going down. A rabbit hole. We all know the police were incompetent that goes without saying. But what drove the incompetence, why did they act like that with Henry?

Were those particular officers like that and incompetent at every incident they attend? Or was it just this one? What made them treat Henry like shit when it was obvious to anybody with working eyes that he was in serious trouble? Yet completely believe everything the murderer was telling them. What was different about this incident from others they will have attended?

Had digwa or his helpers just phoned the police and said I've been assaulted, I think the police would have arrived with a different mindset and treat henry who was clearly in trouble completely differently. Which is the reason why the killer didn't just say he'd been assaulted. He knew the race angle would get a fast response and a favourable response for himself. Which is exactly what happened.
 
Agreed, piss poor from the cops. Things like that, surely the default is seperate them, check for injuries and then go from there. Just because someone has called it in, doesnt mean that theyre telling the truth regardless of what they look like
This case should be used as a training aid for young cops in the future . If two are present , ( this is not always the case which is another issue altogether) , one should be listening to the complainant whilst the other should be dealing with the lad on the floor .
It is difficult at times and situations may change depending on the demeanor of those you are dealing with, but in this case that is how they should have acted .
The racism issue in my opinion is a red herring. I think that the cops were dealing with the situation like they would if the were confronted with a white on white or black on white assault but they got it very wrong and unfortunately for the young lad and the cops themselves, we are left with this mess that’s being used by both sides of the political spectrum to push their agendas.
 
There’s something like 50k knife crimes a year and 200 deaths. Guy in Hartlepool killed his mate with an axe. There was a gang running around Middlesbrough with machetes the other day. Crime is rife. It only kicks off with the usual suspects however when a guy wears a turban.

The amount of sexual abuse in churches over the years it’s a wonder there are any left not burned down by the pitch fork brigade?

Nope it’s easier to blame everything on people that don’t look like you.

Seriously there are scum bags in every race, religion, age bracket, hair colour, whatever just like there are good people. The people who avoid looking close at home tend to be part of the problem. Nearly 50% of those arrested trying to “save our country and children” had a criminal record for domestic abuse. Hmmmmm
Somewhere throughout all of this is a constant theme of prosecutors, courts and the police being unable or unwilling to investigate these offences properly which ultimately dooms history to repeat itself. Coppers need hauling over coals for their actions in this instance however
 
I have been on the wrong end of police brutality .. that another story..

But to cuff the lad whilst on his front and to just lift the t-shirt up a bit on his back, then basically determine that hes not been stabbed in that area of his body.. and then call him a liar was disgusting..
IK don't know what training these clowns get, but basic humanity says you should ask where, then examine the area carefully. A puncture wound to the thorax with little bleeding should trigger an alarm straight away, especially if the victim is having difficulty in breathing
 
i address this to the smb progressives - what are we allowed to feel cold hard rage about? , and why is cold hard rage so bad?
 
The thread is going down. A rabbit hole. We all know the police were incompetent that goes without saying. But what drove the incompetence, why did they act like that with Henry?

Were those particular officers like that and incompetent at every incident they attend? Or was it just this one? What made them treat Henry like shit when it was obvious to anybody with working eyes that he was in serious trouble? Yet completely believe everything the murderer was telling them. What was different about this incident from others they will have attended?

Had digwa or his helpers just phoned the police and said I've been assaulted, I think the police would have arrived with a different mindset and treat henry who was clearly in trouble completely differently. Which is the reason why the killer didn't just say he'd been assaulted. He knew the race angle would get a fast response and a favourable response for himself. Which is exactly what happened.
Ultimately there's a plethora of reasons as to why they treated this incident in the way they did. They may very well act the same way at every incident, due to lack of training (which there is) personal behaviours, general attitude issues, but every incident is completely different, circumstances and outcomes change constantly. So in terms of what was different about this from other incidents, the answer is pretty much everything from the call, to the people, to the environment to the circumstances of events.

Or they acted the way they did (differently) because it had been a long and grueling shift already, they'd been to other harrowing incidents that day/night/week that affected them mentally and thought they were alright. They could have had personal issues going on, poorly trained, etc.. etc.. the list as to why is lengthy. It could be a favourable response due to race.

That though, again as I've outlined on this thread already, is doubtful based only on my own experiences. I'm not saying I'm right, I just never felt that way, never saw it from my colleagues or any of the incidents I went to.
 
Ultimately there's a plethora of reasons as to why they treated this incident in the way they did. They may very well act the same way at every incident, due to lack of training (which there is) personal behaviours, general attitude issues, but every incident is completely different, circumstances and outcomes change constantly. So in terms of what was different about this from other incidents, the answer is pretty much everything from the call, to the people, to the environment to the circumstances of events.

Or they acted the way they did (differently) because it had been a long and grueling shift already, they'd been to other harrowing incidents that day/night/week that affected them mentally and thought they were alright. They could have had personal issues going on, poorly trained, etc.. etc.. the list as to why is lengthy. It could be a favourable response due to race.

That though, again as I've outlined on this thread already, is doubtful based only on my own experiences. I'm not saying I'm right, I just never felt that way, never saw it from my colleagues or any of the incidents I went to.
I think we all know they aren't like that at every incident.
I'd say if I'd been to other harrowing incidents I'd have treat someone clearly in distress with a bit more compassion. Not dragged him over gravel to put cuffs on his almost lifeless body. That's all it needed a bit of compassion. They had tunnel vision to what was happening at this incident. Which cost Henry any dignity as he died.
 
i address this to the smb progressives - what are we allowed to feel cold hard rage about? , and why is cold hard rage so bad?
It’s the language that’s being used . Farage knows what he is doing and it’s dangerous .

I had the displeasure to witness the backlash suffered by ethnic minorities employed by the NHS after the Southport incident. They were absolutely terrified and were having to get taxis home for fear of being attacked .

Most of us realise that something needs to be done about immigration but following the Farage and Trump playbook is not how decent people want to see it sorted .
 
It’s the language that’s being used . Farage knows what he is doing and it’s dangerous .

I had the displeasure to witness the backlash suffered by ethnic minorities employed by the NHS after the Southport incident. They were absolutely terrified and were having to get taxis home for fear of being attacked .

Most of us realise that something needs to be done about immigration but following the Farage and Trump playbook is not how decent people want to see it sorted .
"The victims father has pleaded for his sons death not be used to stir racial division or political point scoring"

Yusufs response "We won't be guilt tripped into anything".

Farages response was to carry on doing just that (although eventually he looked a little ruffled when we was getting it from all sides yday).
 
It’s the language that’s being used . Farage knows what he is doing and it’s dangerous .

I had the displeasure to witness the backlash suffered by ethnic minorities employed by the NHS after the Southport incident. They were absolutely terrified and were having to get taxis home for fear of being attacked .

Most of us realise that something needs to be done about immigration but following the Farage and Trump playbook is not how decent people want to see it sorted .
There's, sadly, loads of innocent people living in fear in this country.
 
I think we all know they aren't like that at every incident.
I'd say if I'd been to other harrowing incidents I'd have treat someone clearly in distress with a bit more compassion. Not dragged him over gravel to put cuffs on his almost lifeless body. That's all it needed a bit of compassion. They had tunnel vision to what was happening at this incident. Which cost Henry any dignity as he died.
We don't know though do we? They could very well act the same way at other incidents but that don't result in the same outcome and therefore don't get flagged up or seen. There are certain cops in the job with a superiority complex and arrogance to dismiss people's worries at the incidents they attend, and they should absolutely be no where near the job, but act the same way at other incidents.

And that's all fine and well you saying that now, but it affects people in different ways, "I wouldn't have done it that way" doesn't compute in policing because of what they deal with daily affects everyone in completely different ways and everyone reacts in different ways to trauma.

Ultimately I'm not defending them I've already called them potentially poorly trained, arrogant, lazy, misled and naive. But there are untold number of reasons as to why that could be.
 
"The victims father has pleaded for his sons death not be used to stir racial division or political point scoring"

Yusufs response "We won't be guilt tripped into anything".

Farages response was to carry on doing just that (although eventually he looked a little ruffled when we was getting it from all sides yday).
That's the sad thing about this incident. Idiots will use it as an excuse to attack other Sikhs. Digwa and those police did the Sikh community no favours whatsoever.
 
There’s something like 50k knife crimes a year and 200 deaths. Guy in Hartlepool killed his mate with an axe. There was a gang running around Middlesbrough with machetes the other day. Crime is rife. It only kicks off with the usual suspects however when a guy wears a turban.

The amount of sexual abuse in churches over the years it’s a wonder there are any left not burned down by the pitch fork brigade?

Nope it’s easier to blame everything on people that don’t look like you.

Seriously there are scum bags in every race, religion, age bracket, hair colour, whatever just like there are good people. The people who avoid looking close at home tend to be part of the problem. Nearly 50% of those arrested trying to “save our country and children” had a criminal record for domestic abuse. Hmmmmm
Dont think that's true.

It kicked off because off the cops being incompetent. There plenty of crime, as you said all over but certain ones hit high profile media and then that's when it kicks off.

There was plenty and I mean plenty worse police brutality case in the USA than George Floyd but that one caught the attention and that's why it kicked off.

Same with his one.

And because of the current political climate, that'll continue to happen for any high profile case going forward most likely.
 
The thread is going down. A rabbit hole. We all know the police were incompetent that goes without saying. But what drove the incompetence, why did they act like that with Henry?

Were those particular officers like that and incompetent at every incident they attend? Or was it just this one? What made them treat Henry like shit when it was obvious to anybody with working eyes that he was in serious trouble? Yet completely believe everything the murderer was telling them. What was different about this incident from others they will have attended?

Had digwa or his helpers just phoned the police and said I've been assaulted, I think the police would have arrived with a different mindset and treat henry who was clearly in trouble completely differently. Which is the reason why the killer didn't just say he'd been assaulted. He knew the race angle would get a fast response and a favourable response for himself. Which is exactly what happened.
 
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