University student stabbed

[Grimes]

Hampshire Police has confirmed the resignation of one of the officers involved in the Henry Nowak case.

A spokesperson said: "Three of the officers are still serving, one officer has resigned. As the IOPC has confirmed, they are all being treated as witnesses, so not subject to any current restrictions."

As per BBC

 

[Select coaches]

If they think he’s done the assault then there is, it’s to prevent further violence.

I haven’t watched the video and have no intention to, what injuries was the murderer presenting. One alleges he has been assaulted, one alleges he had been stabbed. Were they both handcuffed?

 

[SAFCOldie]

The female officer says words to the effect of “he says he’s been stabbed, we have to check him don’t we”
Make officer, “no”

Why the feck wouldn’t you?

And you'd do that before moving him also. Really bad practice by these officers from top to bottom.

 

[Hetty]

@Gutmackem

 

[brains]

People should be furious.
The police are that Woke (let's not forget their racist 2-tier policy of 'Equity not Equality') that when a lad drowning on his own blood told them he'd been stabbed and was dying, he was yanked down and handcuffed because his murderer had uttered the magic word "racist"

Of course those wishing to whip up hate and racism will try and claim it is directed against certain races and not their bigoted woke nonsense.

There's no proof that the mention of the word "racist" was what influenced the copper to cuff him.

He's basically attended a scene where several people have lied to him and corroborated each other's story.

Is it an error in judgement and failing by the police...yes....

Does it mean that we have a "woke" police force, or a "two tier" system...not really...

 

[summaz]

As per BBC

Hopefully it absolutely tortures them mentally for the rest of their lives

 

[brains]

Hopefully it absolutely tortures them mentally for the rest of their lives

Why? From the short video, which has been made available it seems to be the male officer that has mainly made the error of judgement and crass comments...why should his colleagues be dragged through the mud just because they were on duty with him?

 

[mackem1989]

There's no proof that the mention of the word "racist" was what influenced the copper to cuff him.

He's basically attended a scene where several people have lied to him and corroborated each other's story.

Is it an error in judgement and failing by the police...yes....

Does it mean that we have a "woke" police force, or a "two tier" system...not really...

Your first point will be easy to find out what happened with police radio recordings phone calls etc

 

[rudd]

I haven’t watched the video and have no intention to, what injuries was the murderer presenting. One alleges he has been assaulted, one alleges he had been stabbed. Were they both handcuffed?

The stabbers dad says “he keeps dropping side to side so I’m trying to keep him up”. The deceased isn’t aggressive and from the video, taken at night, there aren’t any obvious injuries, but he’s fully clothed.

Surely that, and the fact he says he’s been stabbed warrants a quick look?

The video isn’t gruesome but sad.

The pathologist also said the stab wound wasn’t easy to see

 

[mackem1989]

Why? From the short video, which has been made available it seems to be the male officer that has mainly made the error of judgement and crass comments...why should his colleagues be dragged through the mud just because they were on duty with him?

I think they are just meaning the one copper here

 

[Grimes]

Why? From the short video, which has been made available it seems to be the male officer that has mainly made the error of judgement and crass comments...why should his colleagues be dragged through the mud just because they were on duty with him?

Because they stood back and let it happen whilst listening to their colleague make vile comments to a dying 18 year old in handcuffs

 

[Julio_Schwarz]

My heart goes out to the lads family. A horrible way for the lad to die, the last thing he hears being read this rights and handcuffed when he is the victim of a deranged lunatic. 21 years minimum not enough, sentence needs upping. The lunatics family, father, mother and brother all need sentences too given their conduct. The copper and the leadership which has engendered this type of response to an incident need investigation and punishing. Horrible situation that is going to fan the flames of other lunatics in this country of all brands/types.

The religious exemption for the kirpan (whilst a bit of a red herring in this instance as the murderer was clearly a nutjob and would have found some way to hurt someone) does strike me as odd given that many practicing Sikhs get by with tokens and badges in its place. If we are going to be not allowed to buy kitchen blades with points in the future (not that big a deal for most people i would of thought), it just seems odd not to close this other simple loophole.

 

[mackem1989]

Because they stood back and let it happen whilst listening to their colleague make vile comments to a dying 18 year old in handcuffs

One of them should be going to jail for his actions/ comments

 

[brains]

Your first point will be easy to find out what happened with police radio recordings phone calls etc

It won't, because how do me or you know what has influenced the copper in that moment? Only he knows why he came to the decision he did. Several people saying the same thing would generally have more weight than using the word "racism" though I'd imagine.

 

[Super Mario]

Wow.

The kid was lying lifeless on the ground saying he had been stabbed FFS.. and yet they still cuffed him and read him his rights!!!

You're on a wind up.

And as I've said more than once people tell police all kinds of things all the time to avoid being arrested, the police have to protect themselves as that's what they're trained to do, I think instead of looking at this through the lense of people like Nigel farage you'd see that there is a lot of sense of what I'm saying instead of reacting so emotionally, however I think this is just an issue with online algorithms as I can see quite a few posters are slowly becoming more and more right wing and it's through unrelated acts like this which confirms in people's minds things like two tier policing and frames the actions of a few police as attacks on the white man.

 

[mackem1989]

It won't, because how do me or you know what has influenced the copper in that moment? Only he knows why he came to the decision he did. Several people saying the same thing would generally have more weight than using the word "racism" though I'd imagine.

They will have radio chatter, your views like others are just an opinion and an assumption.

And the iopc will find the facts of the case

But we all heard what was said, do you think the comments amount to gross misconduct?

Has he treat the victim different due to a racism claim, who knows but we will find out in the next three months.

 

[John the Savage]

There's no proof that the mention of the word "racist" was what influenced the copper to cuff him.

He's basically attended a scene where several people have lied to him and corroborated each other's story.

Is it an error in judgement and failing by the police...yes....

Does it mean that we have a "woke" police force, or a "two tier" system...not really...

The fact they believed the brown skinned lad and dismissed the white lad lying on the floor bleeding-out should give you the answer.

To paraphrase Badenoch this morning: there has been an over-correction in police response to this sort of thing since George Floyd -and it's created two-tier policing.

 

[brains]

Because they stood back and let it happen whilst listening to their colleague make vile comments to a dying 18 year old in handcuffs

Easy to say that when you aren't involved. It's a 2 minute video we have seen. How do you know what the other officers have or haven't said to their superiors on return to the station? I don't think it's fair to judge all of them based on one officer's actions and comments...

 

[Exile in Ayr]

I think the copper here made a really bad judgement call and that'll be down to a lack of experience and/or a lack of training. That's my opinion

You think he made a bad decision because the establishment is racist against white people. Crack on

Unfortunately the call the police officer made probably cost valuable seconds by not even recognising the victim had been stabbed numerous times and threw away any chance of his life been saved.
As for how long it was before he realised he'd made a false arrest and basically contributed through sheer incompetence made himself an accessory to murder is too late for the victim.
Whether the family see justice served it won't bring him back and I personally wouldn't hold out much hope on the murderer, brother, and mother of him getting their just desserts. The fact that a life sentence isn't what it should mean and this cretin could actually be released before he passes away is bad enough, but if there ever was a vote on a return of capital punishment I for one would vote for it in an instant.

 

[Visiting owl]

And as I've said more than once people tell police all kinds of things all the time to avoid being arrested, the police have to protect themselves as that's what they're trained to do, I think instead of looking at this through the lense of people like Nigel farage you'd see that there is a lot of sense of what I'm saying instead of reacting so emotionally, however I think this is just an issue with online algorithms as I can see quite a few posters are slowly becoming more and more right wing and it's through unrelated acts like this which confirms in people's minds things like two tier policing and frames the actions of a few police as attacks on the white man.

Oh please, your posting history is littered with narrative like this.

I mean in your opinion this wouldn't even be a story if it wasn't for the right wing press.