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Spaceturtle said:
Top clubs don't loan in players, they loan them out to get experience without making the mistakes that cost points for the parent club. Are you saying we are a well run outfit and short is a genius in all matters of football?
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We're in the championship. We're not a top club. You want to tell a Huddersfield supporter that loans are a bad move?

And as said above, we've all been (rightly) ripping the piss out of the scum for signing a squad full of plodders for tens of millions, who may have got them promoted but are now dragging them down because they can't shift them. Surely loans are the sensible option?
 

Spaceturtle said:
Top clubs don't loan in players, they loan them out to get experience without making the mistakes that cost points for the parent club. Are you saying we are a well run outfit and short is a genius in all matters of football?
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Top clubs do loan in players. It may be that they do so for different reasons than SAFC, but they do do so.

SAFC has been appallingly run and Ellis Short is a self-confessed football ignoramus - his enduring failure has been to consistently appoint the wrong people to support him in addressing his ignorance and managing the club's business on and off the field of play.

Regardless, SAFC is now where it is and must cut it's cloth accordingly. So, for example, it may well be that Everton enjoy the medium-long term benefit of Browning's and Galloway's improved level of experience, gained while playing for SAFC. But SAFC gets immediate-short term benefit of having two talented players available to contribute towards the objective of securing promotion, with the additional advantages of affordability and, in the event of them not making the grade, not being stuck with them on the books for another three seasons, before they leave for free to ply their trade at Lincoln or Mansfield.

Essentially, Everton are giving us potential assets for a season and we are giving them an asset development opportunity. It is a 'quid pro quo' arrangement.

Hope this helps !
 
Clueless said:
Top clubs do loan in players. It may be that they do so for different reasons than SAFC, but they do do so.

SAFC has been appallingly run and Ellis Short is a self-confessed football ignoramus - his enduring failure has been to consistently appoint the wrong people to support him in addressing his ignorance and managing the club's business on and off the field of play.

Regardless, SAFC is now where it is and must cut it's cloth accordingly. So, for example, it may well be that Everton enjoy the medium-long term benefit of Browning's and Galloway's improved level of experience, gained while playing for SAFC. But SAFC gets immediate-short term benefit of having two talented players available to contribute towards the objective of securing promotion, with the additional advantages of affordability and, in the event of them not making the grade, not being stuck with them on the books for another three seasons, before they leave for free to ply their trade at Lincoln or Mansfield.

Essentially, Everton are giving us potential assets for a season and we are giving them an asset development opportunity. It is a 'quid pro quo' arrangement.

Hope this helps !
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And then repeat and tread water
 
Clueless said:
Top clubs do loan in players. It may be that they do so for different reasons than SAFC, but they do do so.

SAFC has been appallingly run and Ellis Short is a self-confessed football ignoramus - his enduring failure has been to consistently appoint the wrong people to support him in addressing his ignorance and managing the club's business on and off the field of play.

Regardless, SAFC is now where it is and must cut it's cloth accordingly. So, for example, it may well be that Everton enjoy the medium-long term benefit of Browning's and Galloway's improved level of experience, gained while playing for SAFC. But SAFC gets immediate-short term benefit of having two talented players available to contribute towards the objective of securing promotion, with the additional advantages of affordability and, in the event of them not making the grade, not being stuck with them on the books for another three seasons, before they leave for free to ply their trade at Lincoln or Mansfield.

Essentially, Everton are giving us potential assets for a season and we are giving them an asset development opportunity. It is a 'quid pro quo' arrangement.

Hope this helps !
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Great post
 
Spaceturtle said:
We need rid of short with new investment and ideas
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I would not be against the idea of Short leaving. Indeed, there might be an element of schadenfreude to it, by virtue of taking delight in the troubles of another person and Short probably deserves some penalty for his mistakes.

However, during the recent period of speculation, I have been unsure as to how any new owners could inject new funding into the club, given the restrictions of the Financial Fair Play rules. In any event, one billionaire's money is as good as another's.

As for new ideas, that depends on what those ideas are, surely ? Again, who knows what a new set of owners would have brought to the table, in terms of new thinking.

It is plausible that Short may have learned from his mistakes, although I accept that such would be a 'road to Damascus' conversion, and be prepared to back both Bain and Grayson to the fullest extent possible to achieve promotion, stabilise the club and become a self/sustaining business entity that is a more attractive and saleable offer in a couple of years time.

Wishing that Short would go away is now simply unrealistic.
 
Clueless said:
Top clubs do loan in players. It may be that they do so for different reasons than SAFC, but they do do so.

SAFC has been appallingly run and Ellis Short is a self-confessed football ignoramus - his enduring failure has been to consistently appoint the wrong people to support him in addressing his ignorance and managing the club's business on and off the field of play.

Regardless, SAFC is now where it is and must cut it's cloth accordingly. So, for example, it may well be that Everton enjoy the medium-long term benefit of Browning's and Galloway's improved level of experience, gained while playing for SAFC. But SAFC gets immediate-short term benefit of having two talented players available to contribute towards the objective of securing promotion, with the additional advantages of affordability and, in the event of them not making the grade, not being stuck with them on the books for another three seasons, before they leave for free to ply their trade at Lincoln or Mansfield.

Essentially, Everton are giving us potential assets for a season and we are giving them an asset development opportunity. It is a 'quid pro quo' arrangement.

Hope this helps !
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It's a no brainer and these are two talented lads.
 
OP mustn't see that we're on a tight budget

We're not shopping at Harrods any more, we're going through the bins at Poundland

Larry is doing very well getting players he's worked with in the past at bargain prices

Give the bloke a chance, he knows what he's doing
 
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