Train Sidings

[Brian Griffin]

I’ve spent quite a bit of time on trains recently and I’m curious about sidings or yards, I guess they may be called.

It seems like a load of shit is just chucked in them randomly. For example in Doncaster it looks like many lines of trucks just dumped - some connected together, some single. What I assume is a snow plough. A large number of flat bed things, assume for transporting rails. And a large number of not being used locomotives.

This isn’t just Doncaster, it’s numerous places up and down the line.

How does the owner know where all this stuff is? And when they want it to do something, how do they go about getting it altogether and then actually moving it up and down the mainline?

It looks a nightmare.

 

[Hettonlass]

Is he our new striker?

I don't think they do know what they have, do they not use them for spare parts or go to museums etc?

Hope this helps

Siding (rail) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Brian Griffin]

Ah ffs.

Mods.....

 

[SKP130]

Does Sidings look unfit like?

 

[Arfa Sleep]

Hopefully they play CDM.

 

[Dash riprock]

As a striker ?

 

[AKickUpTheBerntHaas]

Is Sid Ings related to Danny?

 

[Dadsarmy73]

I’ve spent quite a bit of time on trains recently and I’m curious about sidings or yards, I guess they may be called.

It seems like a load of shit is just chucked in them randomly. For example in Doncaster it looks like many lines of trucks just dumped - some connected together, some single. What I assume is a snow plough. A large number of flat bed things, assume for transporting rails. And a large number of not being used locomotives.

This isn’t just Doncaster, it’s numerous places up and down the line.

How does the owner know where all this stuff is? And when they want it to do something, how do they go about getting it altogether and then actually moving it up and down the mainline?

It looks a nightmare.

Tops System

 

[Hongkongphooey]

Hemir would make a good sleeper

 

[TikaTakaTico]

I’ve spent quite a bit of time on trains recently and I’m curious about sidings or yards, I guess they may be called.

It seems like a load of shit is just chucked in them randomly. For example in Doncaster it looks like many lines of trucks just dumped - some connected together, some single. What I assume is a snow plough. A large number of flat bed things, assume for transporting rails. And a large number of not being used locomotives.

This isn’t just Doncaster, it’s numerous places up and down the line.

How does the owner know where all this stuff is? And when they want it to do something, how do they go about getting it altogether and then actually moving it up and down the mainline?

It looks a nightmare.

The answer to your first question is yes they are sidings or marshalling yards depending on what you are looking at.
Things are stored there because the problem with railways is that even in storage you kind of need tracks to put things on. Some will be stored for use and some will be waiting to be scrapped/preserved.

The owners use a system of spreadsheets to know where things are. They get it together by marshalling them into trains, booking a path on the railway and then Choo choo (technical industry term)

I assume the logistics are quite challenging.

(I hope I don't come across as smarmy these are great questions and I honestly think more train/haulage related.matters should be discussed on this forum).

 

[Brian Griffin]

Tops System

I thought that was used in container ports for x, y, z locations?

So does this system track the asset too? So an individual truck can be located in a specific place if left there?

 

[Thatheaderman]

 

[Brian Griffin]

The answer to your first question is yes they are sidings or marshalling yards depending on what you are looking at.
Things are stored there because the problem with railways is that even in storage you kind of need tracks to put things on. Some will be stored for use and some will be waiting to be scrapped/preserved.

The owners use a system of spreadsheets to know where things are. They get it together by marshalling them into trains, booking a path on the railway and then Choo choo (technical industry term)

I assume the logistics are quite challenging.

(I hope I don't come across as smarmy these are great questions and I honestly think more train/haulage related.matters should be discussed on this forum).

No, thank you- I just can’t get my head around the mess as I see it.

So if a truck is needed does somebody just request ‘a truck’ or do they request ‘truck 1234’ and somebody has to find it.

I worked in haulage and logistics for years and I thought that was a mess!

 

[Dadsarmy73]

I thought that was used in container ports for x, y, z locations?

So does this system track the asset too? So an individual truck can be located in a specific place if left there?

Short answer is aye

 

[prideofhylton]

The answer to your first question is yes they are sidings or marshalling yards depending on what you are looking at.
Things are stored there because the problem with railways is that even in storage you kind of need tracks to put things on. Some will be stored for use and some will be waiting to be scrapped/preserved.

The owners use a system of spreadsheets to know where things are. They get it together by marshalling them into trains, booking a path on the railway and then Choo choo (technical industry term)

I assume the logistics are quite challenging.

(I hope I don't come across as smarmy these are great questions and I honestly think more train/haulage related.matters should be discussed on this forum).

correct (apart from the choo choo, it's more wooo wooo)

 

[Daydream Believer]

I've heart a few players say they do attack vs defence & sometimes older vs younger

 

[TikaTakaTico]

No, thank you- I just can’t get my head around the mess as I see it.

So if a truck is needed does somebody just request ‘a truck’ or do they request ‘truck 1234’ and somebody has to find it.

I worked in haulage and logistics for years and I thought that was a mess!

I guess they could request a specific goods vehicle, if it was their favourite for instance. But normally they are moved in trains (all trains afaik are made up of only one thing being transported- coal for instance, or cement- so no mixing- well maybe the cement on route)
The trains (IE the formation of vehicles) are usually stored together somewhere near where they are needed- since they aren't usually one off, instead they are regular trains)
So what you are seeing when they are all higgledy piggledy is likely ones that are being scrapped (or the rail ones might be part of a maintenance formation)
Also peterboro has a heritage railway that joins the mainline so you might be seeing their stock in the sidings.

 

[Stan Cummins fault]

Full of Bradley Dack’s tuck. Strategically placed around the country so he’s no more than 10 minutes from a Wagon Wheel.

 

[TikaTakaTico]

I thought that was used in container ports for x, y, z locations?

So does this system track the asset too? So an individual truck can be located in a specific place if left there?

It's effectively just a system of naming things right? Every vehicle has a code and you just keep up to date with where they get put.

 

[Brian Griffin]

I guess they could request a specific goods vehicle, if it was their favourite for instance. But normally they are moved in trains (all trains afaik are made up of only one thing being transported- coal for instance, or cement- so no mixing- well maybe the cement on route)
The trains (IE the formation of vehicles) are usually stored together somewhere near where they are needed- since they aren't usually one off, instead they are regular trains)
So what you are seeing when they are all higgledy piggledy is likely ones that are being scrapped (or the rail ones might be part of a maintenance formation)
Also peterboro has a heritage railway that joins the mainline so you might be seeing their stock in the sidings.

Top explaining thank you!

It's effectively just a system of naming things right? Every vehicle has a code and you just keep up to date with where they get put.

Aye but that surely can’t happen in this day and age.