Tony Mowbray - Boro Supporter View

[TradingPlaces]

Fuck off Tony ?

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Mags
Speakman
Kyril

Everyone just fuck off pal

 

[SAFC_Jack]

No he is not our man, he is so good that's why he is unemployed!!
Absolute relic of a manager

He’s only three years older than Klopp, and was managing a team to a decent finish as recently as last season.

Plays attacking football, brings through young players. Seems a good fit.

 

[big winnie]

Firstly, I feel a sense of recognition when "Hank Williams" asks me as a Boro supporter to pass on some views on this messageboard on Tony Mowbray. Such a request from the No.1 closet Boro supporter is the ultimate accolade!

Down to business.

I saw Tony Mowbray make his Boro debut in 1982 (aged 18) at Sid James Park, go on to be our most inspirational captain (appointed aged 22) through arguably the most momentous period in the clubs history and in total saw around 80% of his 400+ home and away appearances for Boro. When he left Boro I followed his playing and later Managerial career which included a term at Boro.

He took over as Boro manager after the dual poor appointments of Southgate and Strachan. We were in a complete mess and heading for League One. He saved us from that fate and made genuine progress. The club didn't even have dossiers on individual players ... Mowbray brought his own with him to the club. I could mention numerous stories about his dedication and commitment to his managerial roles but won't bore you. He was left with a team of journeymen, young lads, has beens and never have beens. Several of these were Scottish players he had previously binned as Celtic manager who Strachan then brought to Boro! He made some quality signings on a shoestring budget and gave the supporters belief back. Most of the loyal Boro fans I know would have him back at the drop of a hat.

He has had a lifetime immersed in football and managed and played at the highest level in England and Scotland. As with all Managers hasn't always had it his own way but has steadied the ship with most clubs and also has gained promotions.

He has a positive track record of developing young players, playing a passing game and has a great eye for a player. Mowbray has a career record of 41% wins (Roy Keane achieved 42% at Sunderland as a comparison).

A North East lad who is astute, proud, genuine, honest and loyal. Mowbray also has very strong personal values and high levels of integrity. Don't underestimate any of these qualities.

He is well respected by many in the game.

What has surprised me is some of the vitriol I have read on this messageboard about him. Clearly not good enough for the vast majority of posters on here who have completely dismissed him as an option whilst some others have resorted to personal insults. Having known and worked with Sunderland supporters for many years, I'll be honest, I thought you were better than that.

Having had the likes of Simon Grayson, Chris Coleman, Phil Parkinson et al managing your club in recent times, someone like Mowbray should be given more consideration instead of being ridiculed.

Come to think of it the question should really be not does Sunderland need Tony Mowbray but does Tony Mowbray need Sunderland? He completed his full 5-years contract at his last club - Blackburn (not many managers do that these days - indeed Sunderland had 7 permanent managers during that time). He achieved promotion from League One in the process and in his last season had a young team challenging for promotion to the Premier League.

I suspect his reservations will be thinking that Sunderland is a club that in the last twenty years have had nearly as many permanent managers and in addition several owners including the current ones who are small-time, inexperienced, inflexible, don't value their manager and haven't invested much money. At least that is as it appears to an outsider.

Believe me Tony Mowbray would be a quality appointment for Sunderland (although it pains me to say that). It would be steady progress to achieve the clubs goals ... probably not quick enough for the twitterati and most posters on here but surely solid foundations, continuity and sustainability are key ingredients Sunderland have been lacking for years.

Tony Mowbray is your man.

Excellent contribution….in many ways i see Tony Mowbray as an interim manager but one who will stabilise us prior to a push for promotion.
Dont let the Middlsbrough connection blind us to importance to us following the trauma and disappointment of Alex Neil.

 

[THE_MAINSTAND_BAND]

I had a look on Boro's forum (Boro Online?) after we beat Middlesbrough 4-1 at home when Mogga was managing them and we had Mick Mac. And to a man they were all saying how shit Mogga was, that he'd never been a tactician and that his team (which back then included the likes of Adomah, Downing, that midfielder they got from the Scum called Jonny summink, that right back Friend they all thought would play for England, so we're not talking cheap here) was poorly coached and looked frightened of their own shadow. And that day they were comprehensively out-thought, out-performed and outmanoeuvred by a bluff Yorkshireman, his mate Terry and a team thrown together pretty much from the bargain bucket.

I too like Mogga. He's an old Ipswich favourite, a decent man with good principles, been through a lot in his life with his wife tragically passing away too young. But to pretend he's Brian Clough is stretching a point.

If you just want unspectacular, risk-free plod that'll take you to 17th by the end of the season, by all means. This is an opportunity, however.

I was trying to think of an ex Newcastle player called Jonny for ages there until I realized you were Ipswich ffs. Johnny Howson.

 

[EMG]

Firstly, I feel a sense of recognition when "Hank Williams" asks me as a Boro supporter to pass on some views on this messageboard on Tony Mowbray. Such a request from the No.1 closet Boro supporter is the ultimate accolade!

Down to business.

I saw Tony Mowbray make his Boro debut in 1982 (aged 18) at Sid James Park, go on to be our most inspirational captain (appointed aged 22) through arguably the most momentous period in the clubs history and in total saw around 80% of his 400+ home and away appearances for Boro. When he left Boro I followed his playing and later Managerial career which included a term at Boro.

He took over as Boro manager after the dual poor appointments of Southgate and Strachan. We were in a complete mess and heading for League One. He saved us from that fate and made genuine progress. The club didn't even have dossiers on individual players ... Mowbray brought his own with him to the club. I could mention numerous stories about his dedication and commitment to his managerial roles but won't bore you. He was left with a team of journeymen, young lads, has beens and never have beens. Several of these were Scottish players he had previously binned as Celtic manager who Strachan then brought to Boro! He made some quality signings on a shoestring budget and gave the supporters belief back. Most of the loyal Boro fans I know would have him back at the drop of a hat.

He has had a lifetime immersed in football and managed and played at the highest level in England and Scotland. As with all Managers hasn't always had it his own way but has steadied the ship with most clubs and also has gained promotions.

He has a positive track record of developing young players, playing a passing game and has a great eye for a player. Mowbray has a career record of 41% wins (Roy Keane achieved 42% at Sunderland as a comparison).

A North East lad who is astute, proud, genuine, honest and loyal. Mowbray also has very strong personal values and high levels of integrity. Don't underestimate any of these qualities.

He is well respected by many in the game.

What has surprised me is some of the vitriol I have read on this messageboard about him. Clearly not good enough for the vast majority of posters on here who have completely dismissed him as an option whilst some others have resorted to personal insults. Having known and worked with Sunderland supporters for many years, I'll be honest, I thought you were better than that.

Having had the likes of Simon Grayson, Chris Coleman, Phil Parkinson et al managing your club in recent times, someone like Mowbray should be given more consideration instead of being ridiculed.

Come to think of it the question should really be not does Sunderland need Tony Mowbray but does Tony Mowbray need Sunderland? He completed his full 5-years contract at his last club - Blackburn (not many managers do that these days - indeed Sunderland had 7 permanent managers during that time). He achieved promotion from League One in the process and in his last season had a young team challenging for promotion to the Premier League.

I suspect his reservations will be thinking that Sunderland is a club that in the last twenty years have had nearly as many permanent managers and in addition several owners including the current ones who are small-time, inexperienced, inflexible, don't value their manager and haven't invested much money. At least that is as it appears to an outsider.

Believe me Tony Mowbray would be a quality appointment for Sunderland (although it pains me to say that). It would be steady progress to achieve the clubs goals ... probably not quick enough for the twitterati and most posters on here but surely solid foundations, continuity and sustainability are key ingredients Sunderland have been lacking for years.

Tony Mowbray is your man.

Thanks for the post

 

[Georgewhitt]

You can’t always get what you want.

But we're going to end up with Rolling Tone.

I'm here all week

 

[Casper]

I genuinely can’t believe there are Sunderland supporters getting on board with this. Despite being sacked by Boro for being shit, their supporters wanting him to be sacked for being shit despite liking him for his time as a player, there are now people thinking this is a really good post and justification for us appointing him despite the fact they’d not have him back in a month of Sundays.

If Eddie Howe is sacked, I’ll get on a Newcastle forum and extol the virtues of Ricky Sbragia and see how far it gets me

Alex Neil got peddled for being shit at Preston

 

[daventry cat]

Boro wanted Mowbray out. He failed there in quite a significant way. He was sacked having achieved nothing there. I’ve mates who support Boro who wouldn’t want him back even if Wilder departed tomorrow morning. They certainly wouldn’t want Mowbray to replace Wilder.

Yet somehow according to this Boro supporter, as eloquent as he may have been, we’re to welcome his appointment? Why aye

yet in his more recent tenure he was genuinely successful, saw out his contract and in terms of style and method seems to entirely fit our bill. Add to this his family belong in the area certainly a factor in ANs decision and he starts to stack up

 

[KCB1998]

The lad spends time to right that out, it’s well written and insightful yet most of the first page of replies are just people being childish cocks.

That’s social media all over I’m afraid. At least the majority of us try to engage in some kind of sensible discussion but I’m with you - it’s a bit embarrassing as well.

 

[Sea to Shining Sea]

yet in his more recent tenure he was genuinely successful, saw out his contract and in terms of style and method seems to entirely fit our bill. Add to this his family belong in the area certainly a factor in ANs decision and he starts to stack up

Genuinely successful? Really?

 

[Mowgli]

So, significantly more. Id expect a celtic manager to get at least 55% win ratio in the league.

He wasn't far off tbf

 

[ontap]

so explain Blackburn then??? And I'm not defending or proposing anyone by the way..

These are Blackburns finishing position in the last 4 years under TM. , genuinely successful my arse.
15th (2018-2019), 11th (2019-2020), 15th (2020-2021), and 8th (2021-2022)
would you be happy with this sort of return for the next 4 years ?

 

[Hyltons finest]

Anyone saying he’s shite now is just waiting for an “I told you so” later on. There’s been some obvious shit appointments which I’ve been frustrated by however I’ll never knock them before they’ve had a go. He seems to have done alright with Blackburn?

 

[Sea to Shining Sea]

He wasn't far off tbf

I’m genuinely very surprised you’re thinking this is a good move mind

 

[blf]

I love Tony Mowbray. He was an inspirational captain for us.
As a manager he was unlucky to come to us when we were in some dire financial trouble. Gibson couldn't give him any financial backing and his brief was simply to keep us up. He's a great leader which led to the Rioch quote about how he would go to the moon with him which is what our fanzine and fan site is based around.
I know Tony outside of football and he is an intelligent principled family man.
I hope you give him a go.

 

[Sea to Shining Sea]

These are Blackburns finishing position in the last 4 years under TM
15th (2018-2019), 11th (2019-2020), 15th (2020-2021), and 8th (2021-2022)
would you be happy with this sort of return for the next 4 years ?

‘Model’ ‘sustainability’ ‘project’

I’m sure any answer will feature one of the above

 

[daventry cat]

Genuinely successful? Really?

promotion stabalisation progression .....exactly what the owners are looking for I imagine. We supporters have loftier ambitions ....and why not.....BUT we dont set the criteria nor offer the job

 

[Sea to Shining Sea]

I love Tony Mowbray. He was an inspirational captain for us.
As a manager he was unlucky to come to us when we were in some dire financial trouble. Gibson couldn't give him any financial backing and his brief was simply to keep us up. He's a great leader which led to the Rioch quote about how he would go to the moon with him which is what our fanzine and fan site is based around.
I know Tony outside of football and he is an intelligent principled family man.
I hope you give him a go.

Would you like him to have him back as Boro manager tomorrow?

 

[Georgewhitt]

These are Blackburns finishing position in the last 4 years under TM. , genuinely successful my arse.
15th (2018-2019), 11th (2019-2020), 15th (2020-2021), and 8th (2021-2022)
would you be happy with this sort of return for the next 4 years ?

Wouldn't be "happy" with any of that this year, let alone for 4 years.

 

[Sea to Shining Sea]

promotion stabalisation progression .....exactly what the owners are looking for I imagine. We supporters have loftier ambitions ....and why not.....BUT we dont set the criteria nor offer the job

If nigh on half a decade of mid table finishes and a flirtation with the play offs is what our billionaire owner aspires to then the future is super exciting