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Tonight's turn out....

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54k at OT. They couldn't even give the tickets away

Was the same at a lot of grounds around the country. How many Everton were there?

When the Cup holders are not interested, why should Sunderland fans be interested?

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we took less than 500 to arsenal away at the end of last season

Marv said:
54k at OT. They couldn't even give the tickets away

Was the same at a lot of grounds around the country. How many Everton were there?

When the Cup holders are not interested, why should Sunderland fans be interested?

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only 54000 bloody shocking
 
andysfootball said:
we took less than 500 to arsenal away at the end of last season


only 54000 bloody shocking
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Officially 54k but they were giving hundreds to schools and had two tiers shut.

Spurs had 24k. I heard the Everton crowd was 23k but the OP was about tonight's turnout and the point is most football fans ignored the League Cup
 
It was a 'poor' turnout last night but completely understandable given the circumstances in my opinion. Sunderland have played Everton numerous times in recent years and it's not exactly been a ground you've enjoyed great success at in that time either. People love to mock certain followings, taking them all in equal circumstances, often on Social Media by people who are either on the wind up, don't go to games themselves or are just simply clueless. For example, Forest had well over 4,000 at Chelsea last night. I've seen some of them shouting about how great their following is, but from the odd thing i've seen down the years, they barely muster up 1,000 for loads of aways because they are watching poor football in a lower league. Chelsea away is a novelty for them and if they played them in the Premier League, season in season out, I reckon they'd struggle to take 2,000 for a midweek game there.

If Sunderland were a top 6 Premier League side, you'd be bringing anything from 3-5,000 to Goodison for that last night.

There are so many factors that determine how big a following is. Kick off time, ticket price, view from the seat, distance, is it a London away (always exiles that boost the following for non-London clubs), current form, prospects for that season.

This is why it constantly baffles me how Man United as an example get constantly praised for their support. Why is it impressive that they sell out every single away when they have hundreds/thousands of out of town supporters to make up for any Mancs that can't make it? Or that they sing non-stop after all they have seen down the years. Why should the mancs who support them get credit for travelling a long distance when they know they support a team with every chance of getting a result in any away game they play in?

Just using ourselves as an example. I wouldn't try and make out that we are as low as your fans are now, just as yourselves couldn't compare your drop off with someone like Portsmouth. But we've just got Chelsea in the next round...we've played them 8 times in the competition and have never beaten them. We haven't beaten them away in the League since 1994 ,and we've already been beaten by them this season 2-0 and were hammered 5-0 there last season. I'm weighing up whether it's worth the near £100 it might cost for an in and out trip or more than that if I have to stay over. Clubs like Man United and now Chelsea never have to go to an away game with that thought, the way Everton, Sunderland, Forest, West Brom or Blackburn do.
 
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EFC said:
It was a 'poor' turnout last night but completely understandable given the circumstances in my opinion. Sunderland have played Everton numerous times in recent years and it's not exactly been a ground you've enjoyed great success at in that time either. People love to mock certain followings, taking them all in equal circumstances, often on Social Media by people who are either on the wind up, don't go to games themselves or are just simply clueless. For example, Forest had well over 4,000 at Chelsea last night. I've seen some of them shouting about how great their following is, but from the odd thing i've seen down the years, they barely muster up 1,000 for loads of aways because they are watching poor football in a lower league. Chelsea away is a novelty for them and if they played them in the Premier League, season in season out, I reckon they'd struggle to take 2,000 for a midweek game there.

If Sunderland were a top 6 Premier League side, you'd be bringing anything from 3-5,000 to Goodison for that last night.

There are so many factors that determine how big a following is. Kick off time, ticket price, view from the seat, distance, is it a London away (always exiles that boost the following for non-London clubs), current form, prospects for that season.

This is why it constantly baffles me how Man United as an example get constantly praised for their support. Why is it impressive that they sell out every single away when they have hundreds/thousands of out of town supporters to make up for any Mancs that can't make it? Or that they sing non-stop after all they have seen down the years. Why should the mancs who support them get credit for travelling a long distance when they know they support a team with every chance of getting a result in any away game they play in?

Just using ourselves as an example. I wouldn't try and make out that we are as low as your fans are now, just as yourselves couldn't compare your drop off with someone like Portsmouth. But we've just got Chelsea in the next round...we've played them 8 times in the competition and have never beaten them. We haven't beaten them away in the League since 1994 ,and we've already been beaten by them this season 2-0 and were hammered 5-0 there last season. I'm weighing up whether it's worth the near £100 it might cost for an in and out trip or more than that if I have to stay over. Clubs like Man United and now Chelsea never have to go to an away game with that thought, the way Everton, Sunderland, Forest, West Brom or Blackburn do.
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Good post and you're right about social media - can guarantee those football away days style accounts will have some shitehawks piping up "shit support" on any following by any team that isn't the full 3k or more allocation and you can bet it's the ones sat from their armchairs not understanding how much time, money and effort people plough in to travelling to follow their team.
 
Roger said:
It felt like there was more than that there, although the upper section and corner were fairly empty. Does that figure include the people who paid on the door?
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He is a mag. So f***ing obvious, man. He's the same sad cunt who used to be clockstand74 and truckerman. A mag who's sole existence is pretending to support us and bleat on about attendances.

UTW said:
That might have been how many we sold but there wasn't 500 in the ground. 300-350 is probably more accurate
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There was more than 300 like. It was almost 500
 
Even if I was f***ing loaded and had loads of spare time I wouldn't go to an away match this season to watch us get turned over by some shite team. Obviously didn't mean Everton
 
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No it's shite mate, I was expecting us to be at least competitive this season. Unfortunately we still haven't got a clue. Hopefully will turn it around in a season or two, maybe Short recoups his money and fucks off, maybe we just gradually improve, but until then I'm out.
 
xmfd said:
No it's shite mate, I was expecting us to be at least competitive this season. Unfortunately we still haven't got a clue. Hopefully will turn it around in a season or two, maybe Short recoups his money and fucks off, maybe we just gradually improve, but until then I'm out.
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I agree we shite atm but away games still enjoyable. Also Short doesn't make a penny from away games which is a good thing
 
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