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This knee bending shite

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burchmackem said:
Well, I don't know what's happening over there, but since you mentioned Rochester, I assume you're referring to statues being taken down here.

Let me offer you a hypothetical:

Germany, at the end of the WWII, is allowed to quietly surrender with the understanding that Hitler and his like mustn't attempt an overthrow of government in the future. Bavaria remains a pro-Nazi stronghold, but the north is firmly opposed to Naziism. As the years go by, the horrors of Naziism are whitewashed out of Bavarian schools and official histories and the Nazi flag starts cropping up on regional flags, front porches, etc. Statues are erected to honor Nazi generals and Hitler himself. This is all explained away as 'Bavarian Pride'.

I hope you see where I'm going with this.

As far as I'm concerned, if a statue has been set up to honor a slaver, a Confederate general, etc., especially if it was erected in the latter half of the 1800s or early 1900s as a way to publicly honor the white hegemonies in the Southern US, then they can all come down now. And yes, it IS about erasing history -- a history of white on black genocide. A history of horrific, citywide massacres in the South of blacks. A history of unpunished lynchings. Fuck anyone who say this is about 'Southern Pride'.
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Erasing history accomplishes nothing, history is meant to educate.
 
lackingmatchpractice said:
Erasing history accomplishes nothing, history is meant to educate.
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We have history books for that. Taking a statue down, which was erected to bolster the Jim Crow South and honor a pro-slavery racist is the right thing to do.

And what about the rest of my post? Or are you conveniently ignoring it?
 
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chunkylover53 said:
Indeed. It’s why an openly gay footballer would break down more barriers around homophobia.

These things take time, society is generally getting better. It’s a shame we have a few idiots in charge that hold it back
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Totally agree, but who are the 'idiots in charge' you referred to?
 
Fancy getting agitated because footballers are supporting their black colleagues in this. Or are people suggesting racism is all in the heads of black players? They know the issue, they hear the racism. Agreeing that black lives matter does not mean you support all the aims of the BLM organisation.
 
Is it acceptable sitting eating tea in a restaurant and a baying mob comes over and demands you raise a fist in solidarity with blm or they kick your head in?
 
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