Bears Beets
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A Boro member of staff defending the ref, no idea why
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The ref (see PGMOL thread)
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Grumpy Old Man
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Irrelevant. Why didn't he book the Boro player for yelling "Fuck off" at him from far closer then?
Steesafc
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I know I said I was out but this is the ref putting his hand up and waving him away (IMO) and in the video it's clear that Neil says more than we've been told (again IMO).
As for consistency, you can't argue it's not a booking but I'd prefer refs book the lot as it needs stopping and get the attitude to change so it's more like the respect shown in rugby. Shite like this is part of the reason why refs at lower levels are at a shortage and they've even trialled them wearing bodycams due to the shite they get.
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I also noticed this a few moments before and watch Clarke goes over at 43:18, not a foul for me. Clarke, O'Nien and Neil all claim the free kick but the ref's attention looks towards Neil. O'Nien stops appealing but Neil still has his arms up while the ref is looking at Neil shaking his head before the camera cuts. Obviously you don't know what is said but it got the ref's attention out of the 3 claiming for the free kick.
The video will start to show the class cross field ball and then Ba stopping it (couldn't leave that out) but then you'll see the incident. Bear in mind some probably won't see this on a phone before they jump in all guns blazing
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Shite like this is EXACTLY why refs get the shit they do. Made a call based on pettiness that costs a football team a match and leaves 10s of thousands of people royally pissed off. Fine for him though he'll hide away and not give any explanation.
He's the only ref I've ever seen do it, normally they're not total fannies and give it back. Ultimate 'look at me' moment, hes an arsehole and should be struck off.
Canny hearing that doctor, only about 50 yards away
Ferryhill Exile
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We have a mutual friend who I have no reason to not believe has passed that on in good faith.
I think the ref has misheard him to be honest, and just been a bit tetchy/gung ho. As someone has previously said, a very thin skinned Aussie.
Obviously what was relayed to their back room staff.Canny hearing that doctor, only about 50 yards away
I’m just relaying what I’ve been told they believe was the reason for the yellow.
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Grumpy Old Man
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David Elleray was mic'd up when he sent off Tony Adams. His words "I don't mind you telling me to fuck off, but you're not calling me a cheat. Off you go". And he was a public school housemaster.
Bears Beets
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I’m not having a go at you btw just saying
Oh course, seems likely. The ref doesn't bother talking to our manager but has an in depth conversation with a nobody on Boro's staff...
Voice of fair play
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I know you have to take anything from anybody involved in football with a pinch of salt, unless someone has told him second hand like someone told Mowbray in the same wayCanny hearing that doctor, only about 50 yards away
Grumpy Old Man
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I've never heard anyone from the NE use "fuckhead". "Fuckwit" maybe.
ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK
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Did you see what I just posted about another interaction just shortly before the yellow card?
https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/the-ref.1617385/post-39253767
Ferryhill Exile
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Please reread what I have posted. Where did I say there was an in depth conversation?Oh course, seems likely. The ref doesn't bother talking to our manager but has an in depth conversation with a nobody on Boro's staff...
TZMouk
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You can be sent off for telling the truth now. What a state football is in.
Ferryhill Exile
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That’s exactly what I said!
OK, he had a bit of a chat with someone no fucker knows from Adam.
Oh course, seems likely. The ref doesn't bother talking to our manager but has an in depth conversation with a nobody on Boro's staff...
Do you think it's possible Neil said more than what he claimed? What do you think of the video posted earlier where the ref seems to wave him away but Neil keeps going then the ref pulls the card out?
Dobblemackem
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I know I said I was out but this is the ref putting his hand up and waving him away (IMO) and in the video it's clear that Neil says more than we've been told (again IMO).
As for consistency, you can't argue it's not a booking but I'd prefer refs book the lot as it needs stopping and get the attitude to change so it's more like the respect shown in rugby. Shite like this is part of the reason why refs at lower levels are at a shortage and they've even trialled them wearing bodycams due to the shite they get.
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I also noticed shortly before the 2nd yellow and watch Clarke as goes over at 43:18, not a foul for me. Clarke, O'Nien and Neil all claim the free kick but the ref's attention goes towards Neil. O'Nien stops appealing but Neil still has his arms up while the ref is looking at Neil shaking his head before the camera cuts. Obviously you don't know what is said but whatever it was got the ref's attention out of the 3 claiming for the free kick.
The video will start to show the class cross field ball and then Ba stopping it (couldn't leave that out) but then you'll see the incident. Bear in mind some probably won't see this on a phone before they jump in all guns blazing
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Tbf I see it there.
Ferryhill Exile
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Or the ref/4th official has told Carrick what he believes was said/the reason for 2nd yellow and has passed this onto his back room staff at half time?
I mean it’s hardly a mad theory is it.
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Grumpy Old Man
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Shouldn't he be passing that on to Mowbray, as Neil's manager, rather than the opposition?
You can't tell at all from footage what exactly the ref was saying or doing. Or Neil for that matter. Was he overly aggressive and in his face, nope. Are players regularly booked for doing that, yes. Do players regularly get a 2nd booking for doing what Neil did? Well we've seen 2 examples from this season and last so that will be a no.
Is this the same Carrick who said he was surprised Neil was sent off?
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