The owners
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Lionel Hutzz
Winger
The main reason we are vastly different from the mags from an investment perspective is that we arenāt a marketable city. Brighton are a nothing club but an extremely marketable city in example. Iāve always been surprised Leeds havenāt been bankrolled yet as the area is in a massive boom period of growth and wealth.
People on here can bury their heads in the sand as much as they want but a nice seafront isnāt something that attracts a mega investor. A thriving regional capital ie Manchester, Leeds etc with an abundance of wealthy plastics/ tourists is what attracts big footballing investment
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A marque that when I was able to drive my heart wanted but my head (and wallet) said this.
At this rate neither will happen!!My take on your owners is the following (tin hat on)
Buy a cheap but well supported club in the third tier, push to get promoted twice and then sell. This because the club is suddenly worth premier league payment riches.
It hasnāt worked out like that despite the main owner having capital (the trust fund, though I have no idea on the liquidity that he has available). He isnāt prepared to risk significant greater outlay as promotion isnāt guaranteed.
I suspect that the purchase of your club was an investment decision that had nothing to with your history or support and was focussed upon showing his family that he too could generate capital.
Please spare me the āf***ing magā bs, Iāve been on here for years and would like nothing better than to have you back in the PL (except us winning something)
Except Brighton were bought by a wealthy Brighton fan, go figure!!
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Lionel Hutzz
Winger
The point still stands , as much of hell on earth place it is politically and socially itās a very marketable area
JaFlan86
Central Defender
Get lost MagMy take on your owners is the following (tin hat on)
Buy a cheap but well supported club in the third tier, push to get promoted twice and then sell. This because the club is suddenly worth premier league payment riches.
It hasnāt worked out like that despite the main owner having capital (the trust fund, though I have no idea on the liquidity that he has available). He isnāt prepared to risk significant greater outlay as promotion isnāt guaranteed.
I suspect that the purchase of your club was an investment decision that had nothing to with your history or support and was focussed upon showing his family that he too could generate capital.
Please spare me the āf***ing magā bs, Iāve been on here for years and would like nothing better than to have you back in the PL (except us winning something
BIG MAL
Striker
Well you did start your post with " tin hat on" so you got what you expected.
CissesUnderpants9
Winger
Well, Talk about a blast from the past.My take on your owners is the following (tin hat on)
Buy a cheap but well supported club in the third tier, push to get promoted twice and then sell. This because the club is suddenly worth premier league payment riches.
It hasnāt worked out like that despite the main owner having capital (the trust fund, though I have no idea on the liquidity that he has available). He isnāt prepared to risk significant greater outlay as promotion isnāt guaranteed.
I suspect that the purchase of your club was an investment decision that had nothing to with your history or support and was focussed upon showing his family that he too could generate capital.
Please spare me the āf***ing magā bs, Iāve been on here for years and would like nothing better than to have you back in the PL (except us winning something
Eric gates hair
Winger
YohanKebab
Central Defender
My take on your owners are that they are murdering nonces. Hope this helps. They also don't give a fuck about you lot or your support, and they bought your club, as you are all gullible and easy to sportswash.
He might have taken that squad as far as he could but that was further than most other managers could have and was a reflection of the squad, not TM. The last 3 transfer windows have been disasters, not 2, and many of the signings from earlier windows now look to be nowhere near the successful signings we thought they were, whether through persistent injury or loss of form.
The gulf between our first-choice eleven an the rest of the squad has become so vast that given a lengthy injury list, we are just not capable of competing at this level. We need to start recruiting again in the way professional, functional football clubs do, by identifying weaknesses in the squad and working to address them, rather than just targeting kids based on wages, fee and availability and hoping a head coach can somehow cobble together a successful team from them. A club the size of Sunderland deserves better than that.
Kid Galahad
Striker
It would be sheer luck if we get promoted under the current model, and I seriously doubt any decent ambitious coach will be really interested when working with both hands tied behind his back, unless they are out of work and just think "fuck it what have I got to lose?", the BCB and recent window failures about an experienced forward or leader are seriously sticking in my throat mind, I'm waiting to see how it pans out...
Mackem Al
Midfield
Given the club's stance on Jack Clarke contract as the most recent example of their behaviour is clear our interpretation of what constitutes a mistake is very different from theirs. They are still carrying on in exactly the same way. They clearly don't think they've made mistakes and believe what they are doing is in line with what they actually want to achieve. Not what they state in public they want to achieve.
Gloucester
Striker
Very much my reading of our situation.My take on your owners is the following (tin hat on)
Buy a cheap but well supported club in the third tier, push to get promoted twice and then sell. This because the club is suddenly worth premier league payment riches.
It hasnāt worked out like that despite the main owner having capital (the trust fund, though I have no idea on the liquidity that he has available). He isnāt prepared to risk significant greater outlay as promotion isnāt guaranteed.
I suspect that the purchase of your club was an investment decision that had nothing to with your history or support and was focussed upon showing his family that he too could generate capital.
Please spare me the āf***ing magā bs, Iāve been on here for years and would like nothing better than to have you back in the PL (except us winning something
monty in command
Central Defender
I can't disagree with what you say and if 'the model' is purely to do with the recruitment, development and sale of young talent then we really are not going to get anywhere, which is why I talk of developing the model. To be fair we haven't sold anyone yet (I know know we sold Ross Stewart but he wasn't going to sign a new deal) and I realise that Jack Clarke will almost certainly go in the summer, but we need to keep Ballard, Neil, Patto, Hume, Rigg etc. otherwise we will go backwards. That we need experience is clear for all to see, and CF and DCM are two positions which need that experience.
My hope - assuming selling Clarke is something we cannot avoid - is that he is the only significant departure and we invest in three or four experienced players and address the squad weaknesses (CF, DCM, CH, LW). I doubt we can expect more than that, bolstered by a few more less experienced no doubt; and the hope that Alese, Cirkin, Huggins can stay fit.
If we sell more than Clarke, don't invest in experience here and there, don't address the glaring weaknesses in the team then the ownership, Speakman etc. will rightly be criticised.
Blyth
Striker
Says who? It was never gonna be overnight success.
Lord Potts
Striker
You will be surprised how many potential meggar rich investors favour a sandy environment above any other as a consequence of them living in one.
You only have to look up the road to see that
HettonSAFC
Winger
Well it sure is. Buy cheap, develop and sell. If true what Hart says nobody needs to dream about premier league. 5 years modelā¦..my arseā¦.had their chance and threw it away (twice)
