The hundred franchises

[Hugh Gains]

Anyone with knowledge on this explain this to me?

I see the county’s involved have sold a stake if not the whole of their stake in their relevant associated franchise

Massive cash injection into the county sides but is the sale of particularly the whole pie short sighted or was this the plan?

 

[Anthly]

Dunno mate, but I do know The Hundred is unwatchable… well in my opinion.

 

[Sillypoint]

Dunno mate, but I do know The Hundred is unwatchable… well in my opinion.

genuine question, taking out what you think it may or may have not done to domestic & test schedule, what make's unwatchable as a game of cricket?

 

[mackembhoy]

Anyone with knowledge on this explain this to me?

I see the county’s involved have sold a stake if not the whole of their stake in their relevant associated franchise

Massive cash injection into the county sides but is the sale of particularly the whole pie short sighted or was this the plan?

The issue is the ECB never patented the T20 Brand.

So then it meant the BCCI did their own version and made it into the Premier League equivalent as the biggest show in town.

So daft twat Harrison hatched a plan to try and come up with a new exciting format they could nail down and paten. Hoping the IPL would bite at it and invest.

As nobody has given a fuck they've had to sell it for cut price to the IPL instead.

 

[PallionLad]

And the dafties buying any old English tyre just so to get a foothold in Blighty. I hope it flops and they lose millions. Which maybe was the whole point in 1st place to wet the beak of the old guard. The ones that feel hard done by, by not patenting the t20 format. Who knows.

 

[Voice of fair play]

The issue is the ECB never patented the T20 Brand.

So then it meant the BCCI did their own version and made it into the Premier League equivalent as the biggest show in town.

So daft twat Harrison hatched a plan to try and come up with a new exciting format they could nail down and paten. Hoping the IPL would bite at it and invest.

As nobody has given a fuck they've had to sell it for cut price to the IPL instead.

I am not sure mate how selling something for 520 million ( which is a half share in some cases) for teams that never existed a few years ago can be described as cut price??

 

[Anthly]

genuine question, taking out what you think it may or may have not done to domestic & test schedule, what make's unwatchable as a game of cricket?

I just can’t get away with it. ECB are trying to phase out 50 over games and dilute domestic T20 just to push The Hundred. Too my knowledge the rest of the cricketing world have zero interest in that format… please correct me if I’m wrong.
The Hundred is a format too much. Too gimmicky.

 

[Voice of fair play]

I just can’t get away with it. ECB are trying to phase out 50 over games and dilute domestic T20 just to push The Hundred. Too my knowledge the rest of the cricketing world have zero interest in that format… please correct me if I’m wrong.
The Hundred is a format too much. Too gimmicky.

I think they should change it to T20, should never have moved away from a clearly successful format.

I also think just a matter of time before that happens to mirror other tournaments in the world

However having said that if somebody enjoys T20 which is 120 balls I personally struggle to understand how they would not enjoy 100 balls as it just 20 balls less and is in this country played by roughly the same players.

That is unless they have already made their mind up to not like it before watching it

 

[Parkside]

I am not sure mate how selling something for 520 million ( which is a half share in some cases) for teams that never existed a few years ago can be described as cut price??

Presumably based on the fact that limited time tv contracts go for in excess of £1 billion. All depends on how that revenue is shared. That's the impasse which is preventing the sale being signed off.

 

[mackembhoy]

I am not sure mate how selling something for 520 million ( which is a half share in some cases) for teams that never existed a few years ago can be described as cut price??

The ECB valued all the teams a lot higher.

The IPL told them to fuck off got Deloitte in to actually anaylse them

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The ECB had cash reserves of £70 mil in 2016 and spent £59 mil to start the Hundred back in 2019. Then COVID caused there reserves to turn to losses.

So the only thing they could do is go begging the IPL to basically get control of English cricket.

 

[Parkside]

However having said that if somebody enjoys T20 which is 120 balls I personally struggle to understand how they would not enjoy 100 balls as it just 20 balls less and is in this country played by roughly the same players.

That's been explained -"too gimmicky".ott on the gimmicky. Try reading posts before you respond to them

 

[Voice of fair play]

The ECB valued all the teams a lot higher.

The IPL told them to fuck off got Deloitte in to actually anaylse them

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The ECB had cash reserves of £70 mil in 2016 and spent £59 mil to start the Hundred back in 2019. Then COVID caused there reserves to turn to losses.

So the only thing they could do is go begging the IPL to basically get control of English cricket.

Well that article from the IPL bloke says he did not think it was reasonable for the ECB to expect to sell it for 500 million months before the sale.

Which he was obviously wrong.

When the actual sale got 520 million.

Don’t think anyone expected the sale of the London team from Lords including the ECB to raise 145 million for example.

So respectfully disagree with your first line

That's been explained -"too gimmicky".ott on the gimmicky. Try reading posts before you respond to them

Personally I think the reason is my last sentence just my point of view of course

 

[Parkside]

Well that article from the IPL bloke says he did not think it was reasonable for the ECB to expect to sell it for 500 million months before the sale.

Which he was obviously wrong.

When the actual sale got 520 million.

Don’t think anyone expected the sale of the London team from Lords including the ECB to raise 145 million for example.

So respectfully disagree with your first line

Personally I think the reason is my last sentence just my point of view of course

I'm fully aware of your eulogising of the Hundred which you're fully entitled to but the poster explained his aversion to the Hundred. The actual playing format is similar but it's the ott gimmicky of the Hundred which far exceeds that in T20-the poster specifically mentions the gimmickry.

 

[Voice of fair play]

I'm fully aware of your eulogising of the Hundred which you're fully entitled to but the poster explained his aversion to the Hundred. The actual playing format is similar but it's the ott gimmicky of the Hundred which far exceeds that in T20-the poster specifically mentions the gimmickry.

That’s fine my opinion is that a lot of people have made up their mind to not like it before watching it.

Referenced by reading stuff like ‘ I have never watched a ball of it’

Personally I much prefer T20 as one its my preferred format to 100 balls and it’s already a successful format.

However apart from a few gimmicks which agreeably not really my cup of tea and definitely not yours not that much difference imo between the two and played by the same players more or less so don’t agree massive difference between the two.

If it’s ok to have that opinion

A once again mate which I have mentioned at least a 100 times I don’t eulogize the hundred.

What I do think is this country like every other one should have a showcase short format tournament preferably T20.

Which I hope this tournament is changed too

 

[Parkside]

That’s fine my opinion is that a lot of people have made up their mind to not like it before watching it.

Referenced by reading stuff like ‘ I have never watched a ball of it’

Personally I much prefer T20 as one its my preferred format to 100 balls and it’s already a successful format.

However apart from a few gimmicks which agreeably not really my cup of tea and definitely not yours not that much difference imo between the two and played by the same players more or less so don’t agree massive difference between the two.

If it’s ok to have that opinion

A once again mate which I have mentioned at least a 100 times I don’t eulogize the hundred.

What I do think is this country like every other one should have a showcase short format tournament preferably T20.

Which I hope this tournament is changed too

Yeh,I'm in that group who hoped it failed before I watched it regardless of the fact that VofP appears to think he has the right to condone such beliefs .Live and let live.
Likewise the poster is averse to it because of ott gimmickry- nowt to do with similarities in format. Always gained the impression that you were an avid follower of all short forms of cricket.

 

[consettsafc]

I think they should change it to T20, should never have moved away from a clearly successful format.

I also think just a matter of time before that happens to mirror other tournaments in the world

However having said that if somebody enjoys T20 which is 120 balls I personally struggle to understand how they would not enjoy 100 balls as it just 20 balls less and is in this country played by roughly the same players.

That is unless they have already made their mind up to not like it before watching it

I think the reason that a lot of cricket supporters/members don't buy into it is because there is not a franchise local to their club/county and they do not feel an affinity to them. I have yet to meet visiting supporters from other counties support the 100 for the reasons above. I don't have a problem with anyone that supports the 100, what I disagree with is county cricket being pushed out of the time of the season where more people would be able to attend

 

[Parkside]

I think the reason that a lot of cricket supporters/members don't buy into it is because there is not a franchise local to their club/county and they do not feel an affinity to them. I have yet to meet visiting supporters from other counties support the 100 for the reasons above. I don't have a problem with anyone that supports the 100, what I disagree with is county cricket being pushed out of the time of the season where more people would be able to attend

Aversion to the Hundred summarised perfectly.

 

[Voice of fair play]

I think the reason that a lot of cricket supporters/members don't buy into it is because there is not a franchise local to their club/county and they do not feel an affinity to them. I have yet to meet visiting supporters from other counties support the 100 for the reasons above. I don't have a problem with anyone that supports the 100, what I disagree with is county cricket being pushed out of the time of the season where more people would be able to attend

Well I agree, and I don’t why people don’t just say that.

Rather than making out the hundred cricket on show is miles different than T20 when it fact it’s similar and played by the same players

Aversion to the Hundred summarised perfectly.

See above I agree that’s the reason, and don’t agree that the cricket is unwatchable as it very similar to T20.

That was the original discussion

Yeh,I'm in that group who hoped it failed before I watched it regardless of the fact that VofP appears to think he has the right to condone such beliefs .Live and let live.
Likewise the poster is averse to it because of ott gimmickry- nowt to do with similarities in format. Always gained the impression that you were an avid follower of all short forms of cricket.

Like all cricket mate always have, however respectfully disagree with you how it needs to evolve in the modern era

 

[Aidan11]

The trouble with the 16.4 is that true cricket fans predicted what was going to happen, which was pushing the main competitions aside, if not eradicating them altogether.

Well they started with watering down the one day cup. Now they are trying it on with these shite proposals for watering down the county championship and the Blast.

We saw it coming and now it's happening.

This "too much cricket" that we keep hearing about is bollocks. Players can pick and choose the formats they prefer to play. I saw something online today by Brian Lara saying franchise cricket has destroyed cricket in the West Indies. He has a point.

We are now at the point where the 16.4 is going to ruin our domestic game. Every true cricket fan should tell their respective CEOs to stick these new proposals right up their arse, otherwise they will find that many supporters will have nothing to do with cricket again.

 

[Fleagle]

The issue is the ECB never patented the T20 Brand.

So then it meant the BCCI did their own version and made it into the Premier League equivalent as the biggest show in town.

So daft twat Harrison hatched a plan to try and come up with a new exciting format they could nail down and paten. Hoping the IPL would bite at it and invest.

As nobody has given a fuck they've had to sell it for cut price to the IPL instead.

Something of a myth this.

If you are taking about branding, there is essentially no T20 branding on the IPL website, except in the address itself, and that’s only because someone was cybersquatting ipl.com. If you’re talking about patenting the format, they haven’t done that for the hundred either. You can’t patent a method of playing an existing game in the UK, or Australia, or India.

It’s a bullshit format created for a bullshit reason.