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The Hundred 2025


Silly Point said:
Well exactly. Just further emphasising my "silly point" Shit Teeth :rolleyes:

Made up teams with random players
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That ship sailed in the 1960s for English cricket though, when the county of birth or long-standing residence rules were binned. It’s not peculiar to this tournament. And it’s even less true of football. If we only liked players from County Durham in the first case or Sunderland in the second we wouldn’t get very far.

There’s much to disagree with about the tournament. “Some of the players aren’t Northern” isn’t really one of them.
 
Good Teeth Keith said:
Good point, I like how Sunderland afc is all just mackem lads and Durham cricket just all lads from the pit villages
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With over 100 years of history and tradition the counties and football clubs have earned the right to sign who they want. This pantomime taking every average to below average cricketer under the sun and mashing them together at random teams just makes it look even dafter. You'd think they'd try and get mainly locals playing for them if they want to oust the counties as the Premier entities in English domestic cricket.
 
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Silly Point said:
This pantomime taking every average to below average cricketer under the sun and mashing them together at random teams just makes it look even dafter.
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whey give owa man, its the best players in the country playing, thats the point they cherry pick the best from the 18 counties into 9 and fill the rest with overseas, arguably the overseas arent great in some cases this year, but to suggest its all average and below average guys is hardly a ringing endorsement for saving domestic cricket
 
Good Teeth Keith said:
Good point, I like how Sunderland afc is all just mackem lads and Durham cricket just all lads from the pit villages
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It isn't, never has been.But supporters identify with the team that 's local to them and easy to access. And without doubt they're extremely proud when a local lad makes good. Would a random X1 built from the best footballers in the NE with a couple of johny foreigners resonate with local youngsters? Degenerating to Sarcastic comments hardly enhances your viewpoint.
Sillypoint said:
whey give owa man, its the best players in the country playing, thats the point they cherry pick the best from the 18 counties into 9 and fill the rest with overseas, arguably the overseas arent great in some cases this year, but to suggest its all average and below average guys is hardly a ringing endorsement for saving domestic cricket
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Yes but does condensing 18 teams into 8 enhance the product sufficiently to outweigh the fact that it becomes inaccessible to large areas of the country. Both options can be accessible to the armchair tv viewer?
 
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Parkside said:
Yes but does condensing 18 teams into 8 enhance the product sufficiently to outweigh the fact that it becomes inaccessible to large areas of the country.
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is it really though, id argue theres only us and somerset who are really put out by it, most of the others its relatively short journeys to watch it, and Durham and Somerset are apparently next off the rank for teams too, you can see why those test grounds were chosen in the first place for its conception
 
Parkside said:
Yes but does condensing 18 teams into 8 enhance the product sufficiently to outweigh the fact that it becomes inaccessible to large areas of the country. Both options can be accessible to the armchair tv viewer?
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Basically it boils down to whether you accept that limitations that Franchise demands, supposedly, is the best way forward to spread cricket nationwide. English cricket had a very good tv deal prior to the concept of Franchise cricket and both ground attendances and tv figures have fallen year on year in the Hundred competition since it's conception. Running down all other forms and wholly relying wholly on an already falling form doesn't appear to be sound financial logic.
 
Silly Point said:
I can't enjoy the IPL because it's bloated, over the top, lowest common denominator shite, all geared towards the BCCI taking over the cricket world.
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The IPL is the best players in that format in the world.

The quality on show is top class the best in the world in that format.

It has developed the skills of players to another level.

Batsman can now play shots 360 degrees around the wicket, bowlers have more variations then ever before and the fielding just wow, that is jaw dropping at times.

Furthermore them skills have moved into the longer format and enhanced that game.

Making test match more entertaining that it’s ever been.
Silly Point said:
With over 100 years of history and tradition the counties and football clubs have earned the right to sign who they want. This pantomime taking every average to below average cricketer under the sun and mashing them together at random teams just makes it look even dafter. You'd think they'd try and get mainly locals playing for them if they want to oust the counties as the Premier entities in English domestic cricket.
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Ok so let’s get this right, if you been going a while you don’t have to pick local players you can sign who you want, but if you a newer team you can’t??

It’s 8 teams picking from 18 teams so they the best players from them 18 teams so it stands to reason it’s better standard just by common sense logic
Good Teeth Keith said:
Not watching because Trent Boult isn’t from Birmingham
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Aye let’s hope Sunderland don’t sign a fantastic foreign player to enhance chances this season
 
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Voice of fair play said:
The IPL is the best players in that format in the world.

The quality on show is top class the best in the world in that format.

It has developed the skills of players to another level.

Batsman can now play shots 360 degrees around the wicket, bowlers have more variations then ever before and the fielding just wow, that is jaw dropping at times.

Furthermore them skills have moved into the longer format and enhanced that game.

Making test match more entertaining that it’s ever been.

Ok so let’s get this right, if you been going a while you don’t have to pick local players you can sign who you want, but if you a newer team you can’t??

It’s 8 teams picking from 18 teams so they the best players from them 18 teams so it stands to reason it’s better standard just by common sense logic

Aye let’s hope Sunderland don’t sign a fantastic foreign player to enhance chances this season
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The Hundred is like Marmite- some love it,some hate it and both camps are fully entitled to their opinions although I do find some of the eulogising rather ott.- " jaw dropping"?😀- the finest fielding is surely close to the wicket because of the speed of reaction required and that's almost eliminated in short form cricket.
Clearly the real issue is what form of short form cricket is more likely to attract youngsters?
I'd argue it's the one that is most cost effective and most accessible to youngsters which is domestic T20. Newcomers to the game wouldn't be aware of any lessening in quality that an IPL quality team may offer and they can identify with the local outfit as"their team".
Hundred programme is haemorrhaging money. Personal preferences shouldn't be part of the debate,that's being selfish- it's about the most effective long term method to attract newcomers. Clearly that's domestic T20.
It had,and was continuing to,attract newcomers.
 
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Saturday 9th August

Women 11am
Oval Invincibles Women v Manchester Originals Women
The Kia Oval, London

Men 2.30pm
Oval Invincibles Men v Manchester Originals Men
The Kia Oval, London


Women 2.30pm
Welsh Fire Women V London Spirit Women
Sophia Gardens, Cardiff

Men 6pm
Welsh Fire Men V London Spirit Men
Sophia Gardens, Cardiff
 
Parkside said:
The Hundred is like Marmite- some love it,some hate it and both camps are fully entitled to their opinions although I do find some of the eulogising rather ott.- " jaw dropping"?😀- the finest fielding is surely close to the wicket because of the speed of reaction required and that's almost eliminated in short form cricket.
Clearly the real issue is what form of short form cricket is more likely to attract youngsters?
I'd argue it's the one that is most cost effective and most accessible to youngsters which is domestic T20. Newcomers to the game wouldn't be aware of any lessening in quality that an IPL quality team may offer and they can identify with the local outfit as"their team".
Hundred programme is haemorrhaging money. Personal preferences shouldn't be part of the debate,that's being selfish- it's about the most effective long term method to attract newcomers. Clearly that's domestic T20.
It had,and was continuing to,attract newcomers.
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I don’t think that’s clear at all. I go to a lot of domestic T20. Living as I do now, near Harrogate, that takes in both Leeds with local mates and CLS when I can (because this is a small country and it’s not the impossible three day trek some people seem to think). I also get dragged along more reluctantly to Leeds for an annual work Hundred outing, this year it was this week.

I haven’t conducted a scientific survey, but there is absolutely no doubt from the evidence of my own eyes that Thursday night had a totally different demographic to the Blast. More families, more women, more ethnic minorities. And therefore I would guess, more non-regular cricket supporters. If that is your objective, then the Blast isn’t really delivering as the Hundred is. Even the ODC has a better mix. Indeed, the number of children you see at that is one of the unsung success stories of it. There’s the question of any crossover of course. Which the ECB notoriously hasn’t even tried to research. But at least it’s a start.
 
Parkside said:
The Hundred is like Marmite- some love it,some hate it and both camps are fully entitled to their opinions although I do find some of the eulogising rather ott.- " jaw dropping"?😀- the finest fielding is surely close to the wicket because of the speed of reaction required and that's almost eliminated in short form cricket.
Clearly the real issue is what form of short form cricket is more likely to attract youngsters?
I'd argue it's the one that is most cost effective and most accessible to youngsters which is domestic T20. Newcomers to the game wouldn't be aware of any lessening in quality that an IPL quality team may offer and they can identify with the local outfit as"their team".
Hundred programme is haemorrhaging money. Personal preferences shouldn't be part of the debate,that's being selfish- it's about the most effective long term method to attract newcomers. Clearly that's domestic T20.
It had,and was continuing to,attract newcomers.
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It is weird that people who disliked the Hundred so much spend an awful lot of their free time telling people they don’t like the Hundred
 
Parkside said:
The Hundred is like Marmite- some love it,some hate it and both camps are fully entitled to their opinions although I do find some of the eulogising rather ott.- " jaw dropping"?😀- the finest fielding is surely close to the wicket because of the speed of reaction required and that's almost eliminated in short form cricket.
Clearly the real issue is what form of short form cricket is more likely to attract youngsters?
I'd argue it's the one that is most cost effective and most accessible to youngsters which is domestic T20. Newcomers to the game wouldn't be aware of any lessening in quality that an IPL quality team may offer and they can identify with the local outfit as"their team".
Hundred programme is haemorrhaging money. Personal preferences shouldn't be part of the debate,that's being selfish- it's about the most effective long term method to attract newcomers. Clearly that's domestic T20.
It had,and was continuing to,attract newcomers.
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I find the fact that every single angle possible is sought to have a go at it tiresome tbh.

Loads of people have said there is a lovely family feel and loads of kids enjoying themselves at the games.

There is fair points like 100 balls shit should be 20 overs, should be more geographically spread and graphics on the telly shit, all fair points all fair criticism.

However there is other nonsense like the standard worse than the blast?

Impossible as they cherry picking the best players from it.

Let’s face it for the sake of argument if there was a brilliant game today, plenty of people would still find a angle to have go and hardly any would admit it was a very good game even if it worse?

There is faults with ‘The Hundred’ I can see that, but they are some positives and it is possible for a good entertaining game of cricket in it just like in any other format
 
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