the durham league

[NorthCountryBoy]

Hell, missed it.

Not surprised to hear that Burnham got 50 as he is a great player.

Can you explain to me what you mean in your last comment about mixed teams? Surely Ryhope simply put out their best team today?

Some of the bigger clubs put two U13/ U15 teams out.

I'm sure South North do and label them reds and blues or something.

 

[The Colonel]

Some of the bigger clubs put two U13/ U15 teams out.

I'm sure South North do and label them reds and blues or something.

Ah right, get ya now!

Yes youre right SN have at least 2 teams at various levels.

Edit - 3 teams at U11 level as an example:

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SN has 55 U11 players in total.

 

[seaham ftm]

Hell, missed it.

Not surprised to hear that Burnham got 50 as he is a great player.

Can you explain to me what you mean in your last comment about mixed teams? Surely Ryhope simply put out their best team today?

By that I mean ryhope have two under 15 teams, ryhope gold and ryhope red, this is for the league.When in outside cups the best players from each team come together to be one ryhope however to qualify in todays cup game it was the top two teams from each league, ryhope gold were top of the coast league and qualified for it and couldnt field the mixed team.The mixed team beat hetton lyons in the gavin patterson trophy

 

[The Colonel]

By that I mean ryhope have two under 15 teams, ryhope gold and ryhope red, this is for the league.When in outside cups the best players from each team come together to be one ryhope however to qualify in todays cup game it was the top two teams from each league, ryhope gold were top of the coast league and qualified for it and couldnt field the mixed team.The mixed team beat hetton lyons in the gavin patterson trophy

Thanks for the clarification. I'm really disappointed I missed the game because I'm told that they are 2 very good teams.

 

[YES WE GYAN]

Hell, missed it.

Not surprised to hear that Burnham got 50 as he is a great player.

Can you explain to me what you mean in your last comment about mixed teams? Surely Ryhope simply put out their best team today?

He is, scored 80 against us in the NEPL D1 a few weeks ago.

 

[The Voice Of Reason]

He is, scored 80 against us in the NEPL D1 a few weeks ago.

Know the lad well has a chance of the big time

 

[NorthCountryBoy]

Ah right, get ya now!

Yes youre right SN have at least 2 teams at various levels.

Edit - 3 teams at U11 level as an example:

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SN has 55 U11 players in total.

And charge them c£100 a year to be members too I think I'm right in saying :-(

Guess they still get the numbers but wonder how many are from the posh schools.

 

[The Colonel]

And charge them c£100 a year to be members too I think I'm right in saying :-(

Guess they still get the numbers but wonder how many are from the posh schools.

Well known that they act as the cricket school for lads in Newcastle, filling a void due to the indifference of the state school system. Also well known that like Durham City they have a nucleus of public school boys in their teams at all junior levels.

My lad goes to the Newcastle Cricket Centre at least once a month during the winter for cricket tuition and I get too see one or two of the SN junior players. Like Durham City they have two or three who are top quality batsmen, usually at least 1 all rounder who is class which is enough in any side at U11 and U13 level to win trophies.

Know the lad well has a chance of the big time

I take keen interest in who the DCB have at all levels and there is no doubt that in each age group there are two or three stand out players. He is one of them.

However as I'm constantly reminded once they discover girls, beer etc. then the situation can change.

He is, scored 80 against us in the NEPL D1 a few weeks ago.

There is a lad at Blaydon, Greenwell, who is class. He and a lad called Dass (?) put on an opening stand of 200 plus for the DCB at U13 level in a recent competition in Sussex.

 

[Sweeper]

By that I mean ryhope have two under 15 teams, ryhope gold and ryhope red, this is for the league.When in outside cups the best players from each team come together to be one ryhope however to qualify in todays cup game it was the top two teams from each league, ryhope gold were top of the coast league and qualified for it and couldnt field the mixed team.The mixed team beat hetton lyons in the gavin patterson trophy

Actually, no they weren't. Bill Quay were top of the coast league u15 division (beating Ryhope by 7 wickets earlier in the season) right up until Silksworth were unable to field a team against Bill Quay for the last game. Amazingly, Coast League rules say tht when one team is unable to fulfil a fixture the points are shared, rather than the game being forfeited. This meant that Bill Quay only got one point for the game and allowed Ryhope and Peterlee to win their games and make it a three way tie at the top. Had Silksworth fielded a side for that game (or if Bill Quay had been awarded the win as they should have); Bill Quay would have won the league outright.

 

[seaham ftm]

Actually, no they weren't. Bill Quay were top of the coast league u15 division (beating Ryhope by 7 wickets earlier in the season) right up until Silksworth were unable to field a team against Bill Quay for the last game. Amazingly, Coast League rules say tht when one team is unable to fulfil a fixture the points are shared, rather than the game being forfeited. This meant that Bill Quay only got one point for the game and allowed Ryhope and Peterlee to win their games and make it a three way tie at the top. Had Silksworth fielded a side for that game (or if Bill Quay had been awarded the win as they should have); Bill Quay would have won the league outright.

yes but due to 15/15 game being postponed on a friday and played on a monday ryhope gold couldnt play their game against hylton

 

[Sweeper]

yes but due to 15/15 game being postponed on a friday and played on a monday ryhope gold couldnt play their game against hylton

That was re-arranged; than rained off on the re-arranged date. That has happened to every team this season and is a different scenario to one team conceding a game but still being given a share of the points. It's a bit of a balls up by the league to be honest.

 

[The Colonel]

That was re-arranged; than rained off on the re-arranged date. That has happened to every team this season and is a different scenario to one team conceding a game but still being given a share of the points. It's a bit of a balls up by the league to be honest.

Comes as no surprise to me.

I get extremely frustrated at times as to how local cricket operates however I have to remember that the people who run clubs and leagues are, in the vast majority, volunteers, who do this in their own spare time and have lives to lead.

However the DSL situation and how they allowed themselves to unravel and disappear was breathtaking in its ineptitude. they walked right into it due, IMHO, to their arrogance. They were so embroiled in their own little world and empire they simply couldnt see what would happen as a result of ditching the pyramid system.

 

[LoB]

However the DSL situation and how they allowed themselves to unravel and disappear was breathtaking in its ineptitude. they walked right into it due, IMHO, to their arrogance. They were so embroiled in their own little world and empire they simply couldnt see what would happen as a result of ditching the pyramid system.

The Coast League and County league have also 'disappeared' . When you say allowed themselves to unravel who's to say that half of the DSL clubs didnt want this as the end result all along?

 

[Sweeper]

Comes as no surprise to me.

I get extremely frustrated at times as to how local cricket operates however I have to remember that the people who run clubs and leagues are, in the vast majority, volunteers, who do this in their own spare time and have lives to lead.

However the DSL situation and how they allowed themselves to unravel and disappear was breathtaking in its ineptitude. they walked right into it due, IMHO, to their arrogance. They were so embroiled in their own little world and empire they simply couldnt see what would happen as a result of ditching the pyramid system.

Agreed, but on this occasion it wasn't an oversight - the league rules originally (and rightly) said that if one team cannot fulfil a fixture it will be forfeited and the other side will be awarded the win. The rule was specifcally CHANGED in the last year or so to say that if one team cannot honour a fixture the game will be declared a draw.

This meant that the bottom team in the league were able to ring Bill Quay up two hours before the start time to say that they couldn't field a team; and as a result Bill Quay (and they) only got one point each.

It cost Bill Quay the league outright; which ais a bit of a shambles seeing as they comfortably beat both of the sides that have "shared" the title with them.

 

[The Colonel]

The Coast League and County league have also 'disappeared' . When you say allowed themselves to unravel who's to say that half of the DSL clubs didnt want this as the end result all along?

Interesting comment. Can you tell me more please?

Agreed, but on this occasion it wasn't an oversight - the league rules originally (and rightly) said that if one team cannot fulfil a fixture it will be forfeited and the other side will be awarded the win. The rule was specifcally CHANGED in the last year or so to say that if one team cannot honour a fixture the game will be declared a draw.

This meant that the bottom team in the league were able to ring Bill Quay up two hours before the start time to say that they couldn't field a team; and as a result Bill Quay (and they) only got one point each.

It cost Bill Quay the league outright; which ais a bit of a shambles seeing as they comfortably beat both of the sides that have "shared" the title with them.

Sounds like a poor show.

 

[Carteron]

Surely the bigger concern here should be the fact that a club is struggling to get a team out at junior level, not around who gets the points.

Granted it seems a strange rule but it must have been voted in at some point.

 

[The Colonel]

Surely the bigger concern here should be the fact that a club is struggling to get a team out at junior level, not around who gets the points.

Granted it seems a strange rule but it must have been voted in at some point.

You wouldn't believe how common this is. There is one team in the DSL U11 section that hasnt played Philadelphia in 3 years. Couldnt even make contact with the club this year.

 

[LoB]

Interesting comment. Can you tell me more please?

Just an opinion. Think it was blatant from an early stage if the DSL pushed through their proposal for a second division while refusing to play ball with the rest of the North East re the pyramid system the NEPL would be forced to counteract the DSLs proposal by starting their own second division to preserve movement between the leagues while maintaining some degree of ground / playing standards.

Again its just my opinion but this may have suited a number of DSL clubs who may have quite fancied the NEPL tag without the 11am starts. If the DSL succeeded in pulling off its plan for div 2 the clubs were happy as theoretically playing standards would improve (Sacriston, Blackhall, Boldon CA , Gateshead Fell all apparently showed an interest if somewhat muted) with relegation only down to the DSL div 2 which took out the whole geography debate and relegated clubs were happy as they still technically applied their trade in the once mighty DSL .

If the plan failed the DSL clubs could apply to the NEPL div 2 and 'move up in standard' without the baggage which comes with NEPL1 . No lose situation in the minds of DSL clubs who will play NEPL 2 next season.

 

[Sweeper]

Interesting to note that the management committee of the new Durham League is completely dominated by DCL and DCCL representatives. It would be interested to know how much of that is down to DSL officials not standing for the positions, and how much of it is down to the clubs choosing to overlook them in the voting.

 

[LoB]

Interesting to note that the management committee of the new Durham League is completely dominated by DCL and DCCL representatives. It would be interested to know how much of that is down to DSL officials not standing for the positions, and how much of it is down to the clubs choosing to overlook them in the voting.

Possibly more so down to the fact theres less member clubs joining the new league from the DSL than the DCCL or DCL therefore less support for DSL committeemen especially considering the amount of spin over the last few years. You'll note Ian Linsley and Ray Matthews are both on the exec. committee

Also looking at the make up of the existing DSL committee two are from Boldon , and 1 each from Felling and Whitburn i'd suggest they probably didnt stand for election into the new league?