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Shame. I would imagine that last stock will clear out pretty quickly. :-(
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It's unclear if Velvia 50 is continuing or not 
Leave us with the shite V 100. Thanks for that
Leave us with the shite V 100. Thanks for that
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Dint be so dramatic man .
They're stopping Velvia 100F which nee-one liked anyway, and Velvia 50 in large formats (will still be available in 35mm and 120). Were that many people using it in 4x5 and 8x10 sheets? A shame to see any film disappear, but it's inevitable that some products will disappear, as they always have done, and there are still loads of film stocks out there and supposedly growth in some parts of the market so I wouldn't be surprised to see more new emulsions coming out too.
I do suspect E6 is on borrowed time overall like, now only Fuji are really left making any. I'd give it a good 10 years at least though, in 35mm and 120 sizes. C41 and B&W have decades left IMO. And even when formats have died out, like Polaroid or 110, someone has come along and revived them (eg Impossible Project). Too much love out there for film for it to disappear.
.They're stopping Velvia 100F which nee-one liked anyway, and Velvia 50 in large formats (will still be available in 35mm and 120). Were that many people using it in 4x5 and 8x10 sheets? A shame to see any film disappear, but it's inevitable that some products will disappear, as they always have done, and there are still loads of film stocks out there and supposedly growth in some parts of the market so I wouldn't be surprised to see more new emulsions coming out too.
I do suspect E6 is on borrowed time overall like, now only Fuji are really left making any. I'd give it a good 10 years at least though, in 35mm and 120 sizes. C41 and B&W have decades left IMO. And even when formats have died out, like Polaroid or 110, someone has come along and revived them (eg Impossible Project). Too much love out there for film for it to disappear.
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Dint be so dramatic man
They're stopping Velvia 100F which nee-one liked anyway, and Velvia 50 in large formats (will still be available in 35mm and 120). Were that many people using it in 4x5 and 8x10 sheets? A shame to see any film disappear, but it's inevitable that some products will disappear, as they always have done, and there are still loads of film stocks out there and supposedly growth in some parts of the market so I wouldn't be surprised to see more new emulsions coming out too.
I do suspect E6 is on borrowed time overall like, now only Fuji are really left making any. I'd give it a good 10 years at least though, in 35mm and 120 sizes. C41 and B&W have decades left IMO. And even when formats have died out, like Polaroid or 110, someone has come along and revived them (eg Impossible Project). Too much love out there for film for it to disappear.
Eh? You think e6 is on borrowed time? It's all clearly on borrowed time
The good stuff at leastAnd 100f is a very good, stable, accurate film. 100 (magentia) is the one the world needed rid of
Pretty clear that 50 is gonna go soon too
6 months ago that would have wiped out 99% of the film I used TGS
People like me are to blame I guess, used to buy 500 - 1000 rolls a year
Sad that I'm not gonna have the option though
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I thought you used 120 film in your 617 - do you use 4x5 or 8x10 also? Shame if this stops you from using film or even makes it harder to continue. My mistake re 100F. Most of the people I hear using large formats work in B&W, which perhaps explains this demise too.
Anyway, I take your point: film's survival is highly unlikely to be based around previous volumes and professional use. It will be in smaller volumes, used by amateurs and hobbyists, some fine art photographers, and the odd dyed in the wool professional. Therefore the whole economics of the business of producing it needs to change. Clearly a monster like Kodak is ill-suited to this kind of smaller business (though they still produce a lot of motion picture film). The likes of Ilford seem to be doing very well. Who knows whether Fuji will stay in the market. Then there are all the other minor players.
Maybe since I am one of the aforementioned hobbyists, using just 35mm and 120, that I have the luxury of not worrying too much about this. I'll be pissed off if and when E6 does disappear, if I am right that it will be the first to go. But like most others, I mostly use C41 and B&W anyway, so it won't change that much for me. My suspicion though is that someone will keep it going, like Impossible Project did with Polaroid, even after it had died.
Anyway, I take your point: film's survival is highly unlikely to be based around previous volumes and professional use. It will be in smaller volumes, used by amateurs and hobbyists, some fine art photographers, and the odd dyed in the wool professional. Therefore the whole economics of the business of producing it needs to change. Clearly a monster like Kodak is ill-suited to this kind of smaller business (though they still produce a lot of motion picture film). The likes of Ilford seem to be doing very well. Who knows whether Fuji will stay in the market. Then there are all the other minor players.
Maybe since I am one of the aforementioned hobbyists, using just 35mm and 120, that I have the luxury of not worrying too much about this. I'll be pissed off if and when E6 does disappear, if I am right that it will be the first to go. But like most others, I mostly use C41 and B&W anyway, so it won't change that much for me. My suspicion though is that someone will keep it going, like Impossible Project did with Polaroid, even after it had died.
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I'm just saying that reading between the lines RVP50 120 and 35 is gonna go very soon
5x4 going wipes out the raw material of Joe Cornish and David Ward and many others already. Both of whom still shoot some film
And C41 will be close behind.
I'm not sure small businesses like ilford can step into the breach given the complexity of these products
5x4 going wipes out the raw material of Joe Cornish and David Ward and many others already. Both of whom still shoot some film
And C41 will be close behind.
I'm not sure small businesses like ilford can step into the breach given the complexity of these products
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Reading the comments at the bottom of the article, there is a suggestion that it might just be Fujifilm UK that is stopping the supply, not that Fuji is stopping production. Suggests it's much cheaper getting it direct from US anyway. Then again they mention Astia, which was discontinued first in the UK, but I believe has also bitten the dust now anyway. So maybe it is just the beginning of the end for Velvia, rather than the end itself.
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Seen the comment. I know Tim, and I guess he knows what he's talking about
There are of course problems associated with importing film - if you are unlucky with a powerful xray scanner
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Nowt like being dramatic!!!
Just cos you're not man enough to shoot the good stuff anymore.
Just cos you're not man enough to shoot the good stuff anymore.
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give it five years. It'll be back, there'll be a comeback like vinyl LP's. Isn't Ilford's B&W business booming?
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Think that's a good thing, hopefully it'll end up in the right hands of someone who wants to make a success (albeit on a smaller scale) of it. As Mr. Hesford says, the Harman buyout have made a reasonable success from taking over Ilford so it's not out of the realms of possibility.
The BJP always seem to be out scaremongering on these occasions. :roll:
I think the Ilford/Harman example is proof of this not being the case, along with the Impossible project reintroducing Polaroid film and making a massive success of it so far:
http://www.the-impossible-project.com/
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