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The Beauty of Test Cricket

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Toyed with whether there should be a new thread as it is mostly about the first test, but now that the dust has settled, I think it does justify generalised thoughts.

I haven’t watched a test match with that level of rapt attention since the Ashes, probably not since the first test of the Ashes. For me, it ebbed and flowed in a tantalising way, keeping all three results (I know there’s four but the tie is always just a fluke) in sight at least until half distance and leaving two realistic until the fourth evening. As some on here said, this England always has a collapse in it, and a second quick wicket on the second evening with Duckett still at the hospital could have produced a very different story. But they also have a capacity to score big quickly, and Pakistan (but any side after what happened) a capacity for second innings disaster, that meant what actually happened was always a distinct possibility too. So I never understood the negativity that we had on here. The presumption for so long that there wasn’t even a match on. If you know test cricket, there was always a match on.

This was classic test cricket. Building situational pressure, slowly but inexorably. Creating scenarios where a dominant position was effectively exploited, or gradually thrown away. And finally, bang, the decisive 12th session that the whole four days had been building to. This is why red ball time cricket, especially in its five day form, is the most sublime form of the game there is. Because you have to beat sides not merely by outscoring them but also first in their heads and then by bowling them out. Twice. And for that to be an achievement, there has to be some jeopardy. It has to be possible that you might not. The possibility of the draw is the essence of test cricket. Of all time based cricket.

If you don’t get that, if you need the instant gratification of 15 wickets in a day, there’s plenty of cricket available to you to give you that, including most test matches in England these days if we’re honest. And I would accept that you would not necessarily want every test match to be played in these sorts of conditions, and to require this sort of effort. One of the glories of test cricket is in its variety. For every Multan road in the baking heat, there is a Trent Bridge green top on a damp July morning. But please don’t take this sort of game away from me completely. It was magical.
 

It's the first sport I fell in love with and it's like chess and cerebral. It's a shame that people who dismiss it as boring and "how can you watch 5 days and then it ending in a draw?" don't realize how absorbing the game is and it's still the best sport in the world imo 🏏
I should know. I have been watching it on catch-up, 'as live', for the past week. It means giving up social media (not hard), and even looking at the SMB (well...). Now, I'm not focusing on every ball, but the rhythms of the Brook/Root partnership you only get if you are living with it in real time.

Same procedure this coming week - everyone in my household thinks I'm slightly mad for getting up at 5 to watch a game that's already over. And I surely am.
 
It's the first sport I fell in love with and it's like chess and cerebral. It's a shame that people who dismiss it as boring and "how can you watch 5 days and then it ending in a draw?" don't realize how absorbing the game is and it's still the best sport in the world imo 🏏
This used to be me. I was so mad on football I refused to give other sports a chance and just arrogantly dismissed them as rubbish or boring without taking the time to watch them.

It was only in my mid-twenties when I’d started to fall out of love with football that I really started to watch the likes of cricket and rugby union and tried to properly understand them. I found that it is possible to love more than one sport.

The thrill of watching a big Test match whether that’s an Ashes contest or watching the England rugby team go into the cauldron of the Principality Stadium for a big Six Nations game pisses all over anything modern football has to offer IMO.
 
There was plenty of fume on the test match thread over the first 3 and a half days. It was what will kill test cricket iirc.
Yep tend to find nowadays imo similar even though not as bad as the football forum.

Over reactions to situations in the game and loss of perspective or bigger picture.
I suppose with fanatically keen followers of any sport over reactions,both positive and negative are inevitable given their keeness for their team to do well. Not so sure that the comment after 3 and a half days about that Multan pitches was over reaction though. Bland pitches that,at that stage,had produced 1400 runs for the loss of 17 wickets isn't compelling viewing for a format that is already losing popularity. Not do I think the pitch changed later,a poor Pakistan team simply imploded.
 
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I@d reduce that even further, I'd say 1st class cricket, of which Test cricket is the pinnacle, is the best cricket. That's because there is the time for each match to create a story that lives in the memory. T20 or The Hundred, by contrast is throw away cricket, it has it's moments but then is quickly forgotten. One is a Novel, the other is a paragraph.
 
I suppose with fanatically keen followers of any sport over reactions,both positive and negative are inevitable given their keeness for their team to do well. Not so sure that the comment after 3 and a half days about that Multan pitches was over reaction though. Bland pitches that,at that stage,had produced 1400 runs for the loss of 17 wickets isn't compelling viewing for a format that is already losing popularity. Not do I think the pitch changed later,a poor Pakistan team simply imploded.
It's Test Cricket though. You have the baseball and rounders versions for those who need a quick fix.
Getting a win was an amazing result but pitches like that will kill test cricket, it was a shocking pitch
Disagree. Roads and green tops and all in between are all ingredients of the game. It'd be very boring if everywhere became a bit samey.

I cant really get away with the other versions tbh. Id have 50 over cricket done away with for starters.
Yep tend to find nowadays imo similar even though not as bad as the football forum.

Over reactions to situations in the game and loss of perspective or bigger picture.
Some of the comments about just batting the test out whilst saying pitches are killing the game was funny.
 
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Test cricket is the greatest sport on the planet, I think that's fairly obvious. Short form cricket has its place, but it will never be a good.

But let's not rewrite history here, that game was 3 days of rubbish followed by a sensational day 4.

And that is the beauty of the game.
I think that’s more than fair enough, but the couple of posters who were saying we should just bat and bat as pointless going for a win was a extremely negative way to look at it, in positions like we were in the first innings you still have to try and win
 
Test cricket is the greatest sport on the planet, I think that's fairly obvious. Short form cricket has its place, but it will never be a good.

But let's not rewrite history here, that game was 3 days of rubbish followed by a sensational day 4.

And that is the beauty of the game.
No ones rewriting owt tbf. The things people are slating and saying will kill test cricket you have correctly stated is part of what ultimately is 'the beauty of the game'.
 
I suppose with fanatically keen followers of any sport over reactions,both positive and negative are inevitable given their keeness for their team to do well. Not so sure that the comment after 3 and a half days about that Multan pitches was over reaction though. Bland pitches that,at that stage,had produced 1400 runs for the loss of 17 wickets isn't compelling viewing for a format that is already losing popularity. Not do I think the pitch changed later,a poor Pakistan team simply imploded.
Yeah I totally agree regarding the comments about the pitch after 3 days, agree with you don’t think that was over reaction at all.

I was more referring to the criticism of the players after a possible bad shot, even though in general they performing excellent for their country.

Duckett been the prime example
 
No ones rewriting owt tbf. The things people are slating and saying will kill test cricket you have correctly stated is part of what ultimately is 'the beauty of the game'.
It wasn't a great game, but it had a great ending. I don't accept anyone saying that it will kill test cricket, either.

The nature of the game is that sometimes the balance between bat and ball is off, and you get 550 vs 500/3 and a rubbish contest. But because we play this game over a working week, there's always a chance that something magic happens. And so it was.
 
I suppose with fanatically keen followers of any sport over reactions,both positive and negative are inevitable given their keeness for their team to do well. Not so sure that the comment after 3 and a half days about that Multan pitches was over reaction though. Bland pitches that,at that stage,had produced 1400 runs for the loss of 17 wickets isn't compelling viewing for a format that is already losing popularity. Not do I think the pitch changed later,a poor Pakistan team simply imploded.
I don’t accept that at all. No one who has watched test cricket over the years and learnt what it can throw up, and certainly no one who has recently watched either England and their ability to both collapse like a sack of spuds and score quickly or Pakistan and their ability to arse up big style in the second innings, could ever reasonably have said this game was over at any stage, whether after three and a half days or at any other point.

It could certainly very easily have petered out into a draw. Particularly if England had batted in their first innings like most people on here wanted them to. Take that on board next time you criticise the way this team plays. And it probably wasn’t a test match for the instant gratification brigade, and had it petered out they would no doubt have said I told you so. But it was always game on.
It wasn't a great game, but it had a great ending. I don't accept anyone saying that it will kill test cricket, either.

The nature of the game is that sometimes the balance between bat and ball is off, and you get 550 vs 500/3 and a rubbish contest. But because we play this game over a working week, there's always a chance that something magic happens. And so it was.
Don’t agree. It was a great game. Every day built to the denouement. Every day contributed to the positional situation that led to what happened. Every day saw a swing between one result or another being favourite without ruling any out. That’s what the best test cricket does. Anyone can win a game where 40 wickets fall in three and a half days because of the conditions. It takes a special team to win a game in those conditions.
 
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England have somehow worked out how to manufacture a result within a game at the moment, I get the feeling that win or lose there will be a final outcome one way or another, draws are no good to anybody! I would rather see a 5 day game with a final result one way or another with a cavalier approach then watch a bore draw!
 
I don’t accept that at all. No one who has watched test cricket over the years and learnt what it can throw up, and certainly no one who has recently watched either England and their ability to both collapse like a sack of spuds and score quickly or Pakistan and their ability to arse up big style in the second innings, could ever reasonably have said this game was over at any stage, whether after three and a half days or at any other point.

It could certainly very easily have petered out into a draw. Particularly if England had batted in their first innings like most people on here wanted them to. Take that on board next time you criticise the way this team plays. And it probably wasn’t a test match for the instant gratification brigade, and had it petered out they would no doubt have said I told you so. But it was always game on
Indeed you're fully entitled not to accept my viewpoint.However,I wasn't aware that I criticised the England team,my criticism was of the state of the pitch. I've played, coached, umpired and watched cricket over a period of 70 years. I find a directive from you on what I could take on board rather condescending and somewhat arrogant.
 
Toyed with whether there should be a new thread as it is mostly about the first test, but now that the dust has settled, I think it does justify generalised thoughts.

I haven’t watched a test match with that level of rapt attention since the Ashes, probably not since the first test of the Ashes. For me, it ebbed and flowed in a tantalising way, keeping all three results (I know there’s four but the tie is always just a fluke) in sight at least until half distance and leaving two realistic until the fourth evening. As some on here said, this England always has a collapse in it, and a second quick wicket on the second evening with Duckett still at the hospital could have produced a very different story. But they also have a capacity to score big quickly, and Pakistan (but any side after what happened) a capacity for second innings disaster, that meant what actually happened was always a distinct possibility too. So I never understood the negativity that we had on here. The presumption for so long that there wasn’t even a match on. If you know test cricket, there was always a match on.

This was classic test cricket. Building situational pressure, slowly but inexorably. Creating scenarios where a dominant position was effectively exploited, or gradually thrown away. And finally, bang, the decisive 12th session that the whole four days had been building to. This is why red ball time cricket, especially in its five day form, is the most sublime form of the game there is. Because you have to beat sides not merely by outscoring them but also first in their heads and then by bowling them out. Twice. And for that to be an achievement, there has to be some jeopardy. It has to be possible that you might not. The possibility of the draw is the essence of test cricket. Of all time based cricket.

If you don’t get that, if you need the instant gratification of 15 wickets in a day, there’s plenty of cricket available to you to give you that, including most test matches in England these days if we’re honest. And I would accept that you would not necessarily want every test match to be played in these sorts of conditions, and to require this sort of effort. One of the glories of test cricket is in its variety. For every Multan road in the baking heat, there is a Trent Bridge green top on a damp July morning. But please don’t take this sort of game away from me completely. It was magical.

Test Match Cricket :cool:

It is a class of its own.
 
There's not a sport on earth as complex as Test Match Cricket. There's just so much going on that can affect a result.

You can analyse it all day long, and somethings like the players abilities, weather or state of the wicket can be explained easy enough, but then there's hundreds of other factors that have influence. No two tests are ever the same.

Bloody brilliant sport
 
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