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Sunderland railway station.


bobster999 said:
Because it mentions Newcastle and not durham
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Aye but if you read it all, the context in which he mentions Newcastle is clearly related to the round about route you currently need to take to Durham.

His mention of the “river” and “no direct route” is obviously regarding Durham. Bet you get your lass to fill forms for you and navigate the Metro when you go in it because you can’t.
 
Goat Eyes said:
Aye but if you read it all, the context in which he mentions Newcastle is clearly related to the round about route you currently need to take to Durham.

His mention of the “river” and “no direct route” is obviously regarding Durham. Bet you get your lass to fill forms for you and navigate the Metro when you go in it because you can’t.
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Jesus christ man, gan back to bed yer daft owld get. Clearly rattled by something 😅
 
mackem35 said:
Just checked, average time is 50mins and that is if everything bang on, we all know that does not happen so more like at least an hour. Faster on the bus. The problem with going to Newcastle, spending most of the journey going in the wrong direction. Might be people who do it but imagine not many. Crazy that two cities joined by the same river, 20mins apart by car have no decent connection. Prob loads of other places similar but imagine if the money spent on HS2 to save minutes between Birmingham and London could have spent on joining up the dots around the country.
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It’s not economical to build a railway line like that. Plus if it ever was built, it would likely be a Metro/stopping service, and probably take a similar amount of time than it currently does via Newcastle.
 
Cappuccino Kid said:
It’s not economical to build a railway line like that. Plus if it ever was built, it would likely be a Metro/stopping service, and probably take a similar amount of time than it currently does via Newcastle.
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Do you mean like the railway line that was there in the 1930s. So we had a connection between Sunderland and Durham, then we didn't and now can't be done?

So what if a metro / stopping service, a direct train from Sunderland to Durham would get used loads. Don't know anybody, not saying there isn't, tthat goes to Newcastle to get to Durham. Yes, to go to London, Darlington maybe but not Durham. Even that early morning LNER service that ran from Sunderland by that time it got to Newcastle and then to Durham, it was easier to jump in a taxi and have an extra half hour in bed. Also, Sunderland to Durham, one fare, should in theory be a lot cheaper than going to Newcastle and then to Durham.

As I said, we have two cities, Sunderland and Durham connected by the same river, 20mins apart by car, that other than a bus service that goes all over and seems to take forever in 2025 is shocking. Equally, Middlesbrough is 30mins down the A19 but the existing rail service just trundles along but we spent all the money on hs2 so we just have to carry on.
 
When I was a young un, we used to walk between the old sidings of a railway with the rails long gone, at the west of Castle Eden dene, maybe a little further south and it headed towards Durham
 
mackem35 said:
Do you mean like the railway line that was there in the 1930s. So we had a connection between Sunderland and Durham, then we didn't and now can't be done?

So what if a metro / stopping service, a direct train from Sunderland to Durham would get used loads. Don't know anybody, not saying there isn't, tthat goes to Newcastle to get to Durham. Yes, to go to London, Darlington maybe but not Durham. Even that early morning LNER service that ran from Sunderland by that time it got to Newcastle and then to Durham, it was easier to jump in a taxi and have an extra half hour in bed. Also, Sunderland to Durham, one fare, should in theory be a lot cheaper than going to Newcastle and then to Durham.

As I said, we have two cities, Sunderland and Durham connected by the same river, 20mins apart by car, that other than a bus service that goes all over and seems to take forever in 2025 is shocking. Equally, Middlesbrough is 30mins down the A19 but the existing rail service just trundles along but we spent all the money on hs2 so we just have to carry on.
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The Sunderland to Durham line was closed in the 60s because nobody used it. If a new line was opened it would need to take a completely different route to the old one.
 
mackem35 said:
Do you mean like the railway line that was there in the 1930s. So we had a connection between Sunderland and Durham, then we didn't and now can't be done?

So what if a metro / stopping service, a direct train from Sunderland to Durham would get used loads. Don't know anybody, not saying there isn't, tthat goes to Newcastle to get to Durham. Yes, to go to London, Darlington maybe but not Durham. Even that early morning LNER service that ran from Sunderland by that time it got to Newcastle and then to Durham, it was easier to jump in a taxi and have an extra half hour in bed. Also, Sunderland to Durham, one fare, should in theory be a lot cheaper than going to Newcastle and then to Durham.

As I said, we have two cities, Sunderland and Durham connected by the same river, 20mins apart by car, that other than a bus service that goes all over and seems to take forever in 2025 is shocking. Equally, Middlesbrough is 30mins down the A19 but the existing rail service just trundles along but we spent all the money on hs2 so we just have to carry on.
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When I lived in Fulwell, it was quicker for me to get the metro to Newcastle then train to Durham.
 
mackem35 said:
Do you mean like the railway line that was there in the 1930s. So we had a connection between Sunderland and Durham, then we didn't and now can't be done?

So what if a metro / stopping service, a direct train from Sunderland to Durham would get used loads. Don't know anybody, not saying there isn't, tthat goes to Newcastle to get to Durham. Yes, to go to London, Darlington maybe but not Durham. Even that early morning LNER service that ran from Sunderland by that time it got to Newcastle and then to Durham, it was easier to jump in a taxi and have an extra half hour in bed. Also, Sunderland to Durham, one fare, should in theory be a lot cheaper than going to Newcastle and then to Durham.

As I said, we have two cities, Sunderland and Durham connected by the same river, 20mins apart by car, that other than a bus service that goes all over and seems to take forever in 2025 is shocking. Equally, Middlesbrough is 30mins down the A19 but the existing rail service just trundles along but we spent all the money on hs2 so we just have to carry on.
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What economic benefits would connecting two smallish cities actually bring, though? The only one i can think off is if they somehow managed to incorporate Doxford Park into the route. The costs would be astronomical though, as you're effectively building a brand new line from scratch.

Basically, it is never going to happen.
 
mackem35 said:
The 60s very different time,road transport was the future. You only have to look at how popular the Ashington to Newcastle line has been to see what could be possible.
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If you want better links from Sunderland then you need to improve the links within Sunderland first. You could have a teleporter from Durham to Sunderland Station but most people still won't use it because getting to Sunderland station involves doubling back ie. if you lived in Pennywell, by the time you get to the station in the first place you'd already be in Durham via car. It doesn't help the route of the Metro which they're proposing to use for the Washington line manages to avoid most the city either.

The Northumberland Line is different as it links suburbs to the local city - a completely different type of line.
 
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