Steve Bruce

[Randy Ostrich]

Some safc fans don't want to accept that, but it's the way it is. His roots may not have been the reason he was sacked but they did count against him and did speed up the "sacking process".

Genuinely disagree. His time was done.

 

[zinedine]

I don't just aim it at somebody for sake of it though.This kid has had more than a few pops at me o various posts telling me to fuckoff etc so I feel vindicated in my comment.
As for personal abuse personally I don't give a fuck what anybody thinks of me.Can be as personal as you like however not everybody is that thick skinned as has been proving by somebody taking exception to me calling them "Bonny lad" whilst for his previous half dozen posts talked of how Bruce should just accept being called an FGB.
Unbelievable!


Reid done a better job here than Bruce however on the whole Bruce has been a better manager.

Bonney lad is a bit patronising I can see why he didn't like it. Something you would call your son, you'd only call an adult stranger that name if you were trying to talk down to him.

I can't see even slightly how Bruce did better than Reid for us. Ive been following Sunderland since the early seventies and Reids teams have been the best I've seen in that time.
Bruce brags about his tenth place finish but this season we could have easily finished twelfth and we were seven points adrift at the bottom a month before the season end. Tenth is nothing to brag about.
Bruce normally walks out on a club and didn't like being sacked for his incompetence. In his bitterness he blames our fans which any rational person knows is bollocks.

 

[Hair Flick]

Different fans in a different era - the abide he took was no doubt cooked up by the same knackered who brought us such other witty banter as "Steven Taylor we wish you were dead". Anyone who doesn't acknowledge that the anise Steve took was (i) way over the top and (ii) linked to his birthplace as well as his job performance is either lying or did see/hear it. I don't like the bloke and I don't think he was very good at his job, but I'll stop short of lying about what happened to him here. For what it's worth, I think his Geordie roots only sped up his demise here; he would have finished digging his own hole if left to his own devices.

Isn't he from Corbridge / Hexham way?

 

[Randy Ostrich]

Bruce normally walks out on a club and didn't like being sacked for his incompetence. In his bitterness he blames our fans which any rational person knows is bollocks.

Another of his famous cliches is 'I've never walked away from a challenge'

 

[dirty bristow]

Are people on here actually football fans?
Being one isn't about being reasonable and forgiving.
The fat wanker constantly lies about us and for that he deserves horse whipping.
Fuck him, I hope everywhere he goes he flops like a jelly on a vibroplate. Then gets cat aids.

 

[Maravilla]

If steve looks in the mirror he'll see a fat geordie, so the only abuse was calling him a bastard. Bruce was sacked for being a poor manager. He got a little bit stick towards then end but it was less stick than the likes of pardew and fat Sam are getting now for doing a better job.

Pardew's part of the Cockney Mafia, so that's also down to his roots.

In all seriousness, as you say the abuse he's got lately from the fans and the local media is far worse than anything Bruce had to put up with. And the "Fat Sam Out" banner the West Ham fans have unveiled is just as bad as the "Fat Geordie Bastard" chant, but don't hear Allardyce being all precious about it.

 

[zinedine]

Medina was £3.5m which was a fortune back then, Nunez £1.6 million, Fredgaard £1.5m then we move through to the likes of Laslandes £3.6 m, Flo nearly £7m. I'm not counting the likes of Thome, Reyna etc as I think we got value from them, but there's no way you can say that Reidy didn't have the dosh to hoy around, or a nice friendly agent to put them all through ...

Even back then those figures apart from flo were small. Too many cheap buys instead of a couple of quality players. But Reid was forced to do that. All managers buy some duffers at least ours were cheap duffers, flo being the exception of course.
I see you dislike Reid because of the agent stories. Don't they all like to use the same agent, less to deal with?

Another of his famous cliches is 'I've never walked away from a challenge'

Which roughly translated means I've never walked away from a big payoff.

 

[zebediah]

Sitting in a Sunderland forum telling lies about us all and supporting a liar of an ex manager.
What a great person you are.

 

[molthemackem]

Isn't he from Corbridge / Hexham way?

So not a Jawdee in the true meaning of the word....A Northumbrian, definitely for sure but a plastic Mag???? I think not.

 

[Mrjardine]

Bonney lad is a bit patronising I can see why he didn't like it. Something you would call your son, you'd only call an adult stranger that name if you were trying to talk down to him.

I can't see even slightly how Bruce did better than Reid for us. Ive been following Sunderland since the early seventies and Reids teams have been the best I've seen in that time.
Bruce brags about his tenth place finish but this season we could have easily finished twelfth and we were seven points adrift at the bottom a month before the season end. Tenth is nothing to brag about.
Bruce normally walks out on a club and didn't like being sacked for his incompetence. In his bitterness he blames our fans which any rational person knows is bollocks.

Once again you choose to concentrate on the "Bonny lad" part as oppose to the hypocrisy of taking exception to that whilst suggesting Bruce just accepts being called a fat Geordie bastard!
I also never said Bruce did a better job than Reid here so no idea why you brought that up.

Bruce/Jardine make out as if it was months and months of abuse and intimidation. Bruce even says we threw darts at him and chased him out of the ground. It wasn't a nice thing to sing and was mostly condemned on here after, but the 'personal abuse' was literally one song of "Fat Geordie Bastard" sung once for less than 2 minutes by a minority. They need to grow thicker skin if that still bothers them 2 and a half years later.

When did he sat we threw darts at him? I'm pretty sure he said something along lines of fans would like to or pic of him on dartboard but why let the truth get in way of a good story ey!

 

[Hair Flick]

Even back then those figures apart from flo were small. Too many cheap buys instead of a couple of quality players. But Reid was forced to do that. All managers buy some duffers at least ours were cheap duffers, flo being the exception of course.
I see you dislike Reid because of the agent stories. Don't they all like to use the same agent, less to deal with?

I don't dislike Reid at all, but there's no denying that the money was there, as you yourself said it was just very badly appropriated.

 

[North of the Smoke]

Once again you choose to concentrate on the "Bonny lad" part as oppose to the hypocrisy of taking exception to that whilst suggesting Bruce just accepts being called a fat Geordie bastard!
I also never said Bruce did a better job than Reid here so no idea why you brought that up.


When did he sat we threw darts at him? I'm pretty sure he said something along lines of fans would like to or pic of him on dartboard but why let the truth get in way of a good story ey!

He should say nothing, nothing needs to be said.

 

[Mrjardine]

No bitterness from me twinkletoes. I just don't like to see people rewrite history, and ever stranger from one of our own.

Anyway off to throw some darts at my Bruce signed photo

Intrigued as to what part of history I've re- wrote do tell Bonny lad?

 

[Randy Ostrich]

Once again you choose to concentrate on the "Bonny lad" part as oppose to the hypocrisy of taking exception to that whilst suggesting Bruce just accepts being called a fat Geordie bastard!
I also never said Bruce did a better job than Reid here so no idea why you brought that up.


When did he sat we threw darts at him? I'm pretty sure he said something along lines of fans would like to or pic of him on dartboard but why let the truth get in way of a good story ey!

He was unfairly ridiculed as a football dinosaur at Sunderland by fans and pundits, but Hull's supporters will show their appreciation at Wembley by donning face masks of him.

Although embarrassed by the gesture, the 53 year-old is also flattered. "I don’t mind getting masks - at my last club, they threw darts at me," he said. "I just hope they don’t scare any children with them."

Asked whether he felt he had been given the credit he deserved as a manager, Bruce continued: "All I ask is for people to look at my record. You see Jose Mourinho, who has reached five semi-finals in European Cups. That is remarkable. The clubs I’ve been at, I'd like to say they're in a better place when I've left than when I inherited them.

"When you take over Hull or Wigan or Birmingham, there's only so much you can achieve. An achievement is to stay in the Premier League."

 

[Mrjardine]

He was unfairly ridiculed as a football dinosaur at Sunderland by fans and pundits, but Hull's supporters will show their appreciation at Wembley by donning face masks of him.

Although embarrassed by the gesture, the 53 year-old is also flattered. "I don’t mind getting masks - at my last club, they threw darts at me," he said. "I just hope they don’t scare any children with them."

Asked whether he felt he had been given the credit he deserved as a manager, Bruce continued: "All I ask is for people to look at my record. You see Jose Mourinho, who has reached five semi-finals in European Cups. That is remarkable. The clubs I’ve been at, I'd like to say they're in a better place when I've left than when I inherited them.

"When you take over Hull or Wigan or Birmingham, there's only so much you can achieve. An achievement is to stay in the Premier League."

Look for all we disagree you come across reasonably intelligent so please don't try and tell me your taking that literally mind?

That's bollocks. The fans never turned quickly or viciously on Bob Stokoe and we never turned on Bob Mncur when he came to captain Sunderland. Or Bracewell or Pop Robson when they left to go to the Mags and came back to us! There are a multitude of players and managers who have been associated with us and Newcastle without a problem so your argument does not hold water.

As has been said different times and the people you highlighted have all done well for us.Much like Bruces heritage wasn't brought up when doing well it was soon used as a stick to beat him with when things turned.
I give you Lee Clark swept under carpet when bossing midfield for us but puts on a daft t-shirt when no doubt full of drink and caught up in moment he's out the door and a vile mag again.
Michael Chopra "Chopras one of us" went the song. One poor decision by a average player in a derby (which it was as well nothing more sinister than that) and again he's a horrible mag again and can fuck off.
Now don't get me wrong our nearest and dearest are no better in fact like I've said regarding expectation they are worse I just don't see why some fans constantly try and dress it up as the rivalry being a one way street and that we deem them an irrelevance when it clearly isn't the case.

 

[MONQES]

Another of his famous cliches is 'I've never walked away from a challenge'

losely translated "you will always have to sack Bruce to get shot of him"

 

[potential]

To be fair, it's quite pathetic that there is a seventeen page thread on here about him and some safc fans still have gall to suggest that he's the obsessed one.

Indeed. Another 17 page thread of vitriol directed at a manager who is long gone and who has been succeeded by how many others?

His heinous crime? To point out that there were unrealistic ambitions around Sunderland. Yet the very same point is raised on the FFP thread and passes unnoticed or unremarked upon. And at what point in subsequent interviews does he deliberately turn the chat around to his time with you? He answers the interviewers question, quite possibly wishing the very question wasn't raised in the first place.

And finally, to answer a question, yes, that was our first Cup Final. Courtesy of a pretty cushy draw, and a manager in the quarter final who obviously did not realise that a third division side stood between the winners of that tie and a day out at Wembley. If I was a Sunderland supporter, anything that has been said or could be said about Steve Bruce would pale into insignificance, compared to the foam mouthed expletives for that lash up.

Or do I just wait for Gus Poyet to come out and say, well I kept them up, and got them to a League cup final, before he gets the volleys of abuse?

Hope this doesn't cause too much offence, it is not typed to cause same. My realistic ambitions for next year? Tell the powers that be "thank you for the invite into your cup competition but we got there by default so will not be taking part". 16th 17th will do nicely in the league. And hey, these cup days out are bloody good aren't they. Would like another one of them.

Good luck for next season.

 

[Mrjardine]

Indeed. Another 17 page thread of vitriol directed at a manager who is long gone and who has been succeeded by how many others?

His heinous crime? To point out that there were unrealistic ambitions around Sunderland. Yet the very same point is raised on the FFP thread and passes unnoticed or unremarked upon. And at what point in subsequent interviews does he deliberately turn the chat around to his time with you? He answers the interviewers question, quite possibly wishing the very question wasn't raised in the first place.

And finally, to answer a question, yes, that was our first Cup Final. Courtesy of a pretty cushy draw, and a manager in the quarter final who obviously did not realise that a third division side stood between the winners of that tie and a day out at Wembley. If I was a Sunderland supporter, anything that has been said or could be said about Steve Bruce would pale into insignificance, compared to the foam mouthed expletives for that lash up.

Or do I just wait for Gus Poyet to come out and say, well I kept them up, and got them to a League cup final, before he gets the volleys of abuse?

Hope this doesn't cause too much offence, it is not typed to cause same. My realistic ambitions for next year? Tell the powers that be "thank you for the invite into your cup competition but we got there by default so will not be taking part". 16th 17th will do nicely in the league. And hey, these cup days out are bloody good aren't they. Would like another one of them.

Good luck for next season.

Very good post. For no other reason than the fact you's beat us three times and have a manager who is a complete pariah here you's have become massive whipping boys on here.Think the "bruceys too good for you" song was the final straw for some yet our fans can call someone a "fat Geordie bastard" and he should just grin and bear it!
Football fans ey !

 

[Definitely Maybe]

Look for all we disagree you come across reasonably intelligent so please don't try and tell me your taking that literally mind?


As has been said different times and the people you highlighted have all done well for us.Much like Bruces heritage wasn't brought up when doing well it was soon used as a stick to beat him with when things turned.
I give you Lee Clark swept under carpet when bossing midfield for us but puts on a daft t-shirt when no doubt full of drink and caught up in moment he's out the door and a vile mag again.
Michael Chopra "Chopras one of us" went the song. One poor decision by a average player in a derby (which it was as well nothing more sinister than that) and again he's a horrible mag again and can fuck off.
Now don't get me wrong our nearest and dearest are no better in fact like I've said regarding expectation they are worse I just don't see why some fans constantly try and dress it up as the rivalry being a one way street and that we deem them an irrelevance when it clearly isn't the case.

As predictable as ever - whatever we say is heinous personal abuse, whatever he says is banter not to be taken seriously

Indeed. Another 17 page thread of vitriol directed at a manager who is long gone and who has been succeeded by how many others?

His heinous crime? To point out that there were unrealistic ambitions around Sunderland. Yet the very same point is raised on the FFP thread and passes unnoticed or unremarked upon. And at what point in subsequent interviews does he deliberately turn the chat around to his time with you? He answers the interviewers question, quite possibly wishing the very question wasn't raised in the first place.

And finally, to answer a question, yes, that was our first Cup Final. Courtesy of a pretty cushy draw, and a manager in the quarter final who obviously did not realise that a third division side stood between the winners of that tie and a day out at Wembley. If I was a Sunderland supporter, anything that has been said or could be said about Steve Bruce would pale into insignificance, compared to the foam mouthed expletives for that lash up.

Or do I just wait for Gus Poyet to come out and say, well I kept them up, and got them to a League cup final, before he gets the volleys of abuse?

Hope this doesn't cause too much offence, it is not typed to cause same. My realistic ambitions for next year? Tell the powers that be "thank you for the invite into your cup competition but we got there by default so will not be taking part". 16th 17th will do nicely in the league. And hey, these cup days out are bloody good aren't they. Would like another one of them.

Good luck for next season.

His 'crime' isn't/wasn't commenting on expectations, as has been discussed numerous times

 

[Mrjardine]

As predictable as ever - whatever we say is heinous personal abuse, whatever he says is banter not to be taken seriously

It's all about context.Some posts and photos about his weight are quite funny (particularly like the mobility scooter one) however there was nothing light hearted about the abuse against Wigan trust me.