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Southampton spying compendium thread

wschmidt said:
Yeah it's bad and it should be punished. BUT is it any worse than the constant cheating and play acting that we see from loads of premier league teams? I don't think so.

Arsenal are some of the biggest snide cheats with their constant fouling during corners and play acting, how many points has that gained them? Southampton are easy to make an example of because they're a tiny championship club by comparison.
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Thats down to referees not applying the law. This was completely underhand club endorsed reconisance. Its cut and dry. Nothing subjective about it as opposed to a referees interpretation of rules and contact. If its found that every club is doing it, then they would have grounds to say punishment is harsh. All clubs and players would during corners and generally get away with it due to substandard enforcement by referees
 
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Mackemansj1 said:
I mean it was obvious it was coming from him. A bloke that’s never managed before walks in and turns a team in the bottom four to the playoffs in 33 games. Has one of the best win ratios in the game etc. He looked guilty as fuck as well, and acted like an arrogant prick. Hope he gets the boot, feel sorry for junior staff who will have done it because they’ve been instructed too are now tarred with the cheater brush. He’s a twat hope they toss the book at him.
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keane took us from the bottom to champions ;)
 
Pantomime Mackem said:
Pantomime Mackem has read the IDC written decision so you don’t have to:
  1. SFC were charged on 8 May in respect of MFC only. This is one day after the spying. The OUFC and ITFC charges were added later.
  2. Generally, there was a fair amount of pre-hearing knockabout procedural stuff which is of interest only to lawyers.
  3. SFC argued they should only be fined and/or have 2 points deducted, that they got no sporting advantage, and that they cooperated with the EFL - and actually volunteered the info which led to the Oxford and Ipswich charges. Although initially they said “not us, gov”.
  4. The intern gave evidence and said he was put under pressure and declined to do the Ipswich spying.
  5. In giving their reasons, the Commission lead with “Public confidence is paramount”.
  6. They say there was “a contrived and determined plan from the top down” and call the use of junior staff “particularly deplorable”
  7. The spying output was discussed with Eckert and others and Eckert gave a steer on what the spies should look for (Oxford -formation, Boro - availability of a key player).
  8. Subsequent results of the matches was irrelevant as SFC clearly sought to get a sporting advantage so whether they actually got one or not is irrelevant
  9. The Leeds case was under different rules
  10. Aggravating factor: it was the play offs, “one of the most prestigious and important” set of games in English football and whose integrity was “seriously violated” and so the breach deserves a serious sanction
  11. The others was -3 points per incident, mitigated down to -4 in total for the guilty plea and cooperation.
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Cheers. Still can’t be arsed though. Can you whittle it down to a sentence, of maybe present it as a picture?
 
So according to the spygate commissions statement, Southampton's head coach Eckhert, admitted he authorised the spying mission but claimed he didn't use the data. And not just against the smogs, but on previous occasions as well.
Its like court martial scene from Blackadder were Lt. George was the defence counsel & Baldrick was the star witness
 
JD73 said:
Retrieve? Or credit more like . Probably credit after final.on sat on completion of play off final / competition mate
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I've phrased it badly. Interesting seeing bet365's reaction on Twitter vs other bookies. B365 seeing things as a So'ton loss rather than the void other bookies are doing, yet also not paying out on Boro to qualify

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cluffy said:
Spoke to a Boro fan who doesn’t want to win cos “we’d just get hammered every week” in the prem
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Its all relative..just had the same scenario in for us in The Championship....Follow your team,no bloody choice is there?
Just spent a whole season howling at the moon, then staring at me feet, then howling at the moon again.
Here we are in league 1 again....Sounds good doesn't it ..League 1?
I mean if I could have a seance with me grandad,he might ask
"Which league are The Wednesday in?
I'd say
"League 1 Grandad"
He would then ask
"What about the Blades?"
I'd say..
"Second division Grandad"
He would be pleased as punch.....
Waddya do?
Head down keep going
 
wednesday1957 said:
Its all relative..just had the same scenario in for us in The Championship....Follow your team,no bloody choice is there?
Just spent a whole season howling at the moon, then staring at me feet, then howling at the moon again.
Here we are in league 1 again....Sounds good doesn't it ..League 1?
I mean if I could have a seance with me grandad,he might ask
"Which league are The Wednesday in?
I'd say
"League 1 Grandad"
He would then ask
"What about the Blades?"
I'd say..
"Second division Grandad"
He would be pleased as punch.....
Waddya do?
Head down keep going
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You will be back mate,its always darkest before the dawn.Good luck
 
englishman abroad said:
So according to the spygate commissions statement, Southampton's head coach Eckhert, admitted he authorised the spying mission but claimed he didn't use the data. And not just against the smogs, but on previous occasions as well.
Its like court martial scene from Blackadder were Lt. George was the defence counsel & Baldrick was the star witness
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Well well well
 
Apologies if SEB but charlie methven has been talking about this and mentioned the year we won the pizza cup we were minutes away from being thrown ou in the group stages

Game against rochdale and team sheet gets handed to oscar chamberlain who suddenly realises one of our players is cuptied. Luckily he was able to sort the issue before it got to the referee. So cheers for that Oscar!
 
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