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Southampton spying compendium thread


Keith S30S said:
Totally disagree. It's a very marginal advantage. It's more important how your team play rather than the opposition.

A manager being anal thinking he's gaining some sort of advantage doesn't mean he's actually getting an advantage. Did the spying lead to a cross creeping into the goal to win the game? Did it fuck.
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So why did he do it then? If there's no advantage to be gained.

Why was it being done covertly? Sending someone 500+mile round trip to stand and observe?

Why even have a rule about it if it doesn't gain some sort of advantage? To put rules in place in the first instance suggests the powers that be see it as gaining an advantage.

I do agree that the players on the pitch have to play football good enough to win but knowing alot about how the opposition play, and are training to play, cannot not be an advantage. They've also clearly been at it since their 'miraculous' climb up the league places. I'd be amazed if Welsh Hollywood aren't also chomping at the bit to send in the lawyers too.
 
si73 said:
So why did he do it then? If there's no advantage to be gained.

Why was it being done covertly? Sending someone 500+mile round trip to stand and observe?

Why even have a rule about it if it doesn't gain some sort of advantage? To put rules in place in the first instance suggests the powers that be see it as gaining an advantage.

I do agree that the players on the pitch have to play football good enough to win but knowing alot about how the opposition play, and are training to play, cannot not be an advantage. They've also clearly been at it since their 'miraculous' climb up the league places. I'd be amazed if Welsh Hollywood aren't also chomping at the bit to send in the lawyers too.
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Taffywood will only have a case of they have evidence that the same thing happened to them.
 
Hot Since 82 said:
Boro might have had to change the way they played because plan a was fucked due to the cheating opponents. Boro disadvantaged right away.

The fact is it is explicitly in the rules that you cannot do this. Southampton chose to break the rules and cheat. The penalties can be anything from a fine to expulsion from the competition.
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Fines, no matter how big, won't cut it. The rewards for promotion are so high that owners would view £10m as a cheap price to pay.

Points deductions wouldn't count in PL if the win promotion so would only activate if their relegated back to EFL. Same for a transfer embargo. It would have no effect on their season in PL.

The EFL has to make an example of them with the strongest possible sanction for the Boro incident alone as if they don't EVERY team will be at it next season. Kicked out of the competition, forfeiture of the games, Boro go into the final. There's no guarantee that Boro win promotion but at least its a level playing field and the rest of the league recognise there's consequences for cheating.

If it's proved they've been at it all through their rise up the division, and it looks very much like they have, then I'd be seriously considering RELEGATION to at least L1 or a double figure points deduction.

The EFL has to be pro-active about this otherwise it's going to be a legal 💩⛈️ which will have major consequences
 
I think the EFL will reach a decision in time one way or another. The issue is appeals process all the way up to CAS which won't be done in time. How the hell can they play a final with ongoing appeals? I can see the losing team going to the courts to get an injunction stopping the final being played while appeals are ongoing.

Personally, regardless of however much information the guy got, if proven Southampton can not play at Wembley. Any less than that and clubs will do it every season.
 
Who’s arsed

Shite club are the Bereh. They’ll probs want a free pass against Hull as well

FTM. FTB.
rob79safc said:
Could you imagine a thread on a boro forum with numerous boro fans crying about Sunderland not getting promoted or how much a disgrace it is etc etc? No,neither could i…get a grip man will some of yas 🙄
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Was a massive poll ran by @Geppetto last night on if people would swap places with the Bereh due to how sorry they felt for them. Majority said yes
 
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I would suggest that legally it’s less risk for the EFL to overturn the result of the tie than it would be for them to defend against Boro challenging it
 
summaz said:
Was a massive poll ran by @Geppetto last night on if people would swap places with the Bereh due to how sorry they felt for them. Majority said yes
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I’d like to see justice for Boro because cheaters shouldn’t get away with cheating. But never in a million years would I swap places with them.

Also didn’t like how Southampton fans embraced it as banter, dressing up in camouflage and singing “we’ll spy where we want”. Proper tasteless.
 
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si73 said:
Fines, no matter how big, won't cut it. The rewards for promotion are so high that owners would view £10m as a cheap price to pay.

Points deductions wouldn't count in PL if the win promotion so would only activate if their relegated back to EFL. Same for a transfer embargo. It would have no effect on their season in PL.

The EFL has to make an example of them with the strongest possible sanction for the Boro incident alone as if they don't EVERY team will be at it next season. Kicked out of the competition, forfeiture of the games, Boro go into the final. There's no guarantee that Boro win promotion but at least its a level playing field and the rest of the league recognise there's consequences for cheating.

If it's proved they've been at it all through their rise up the division, and it looks very much like they have, then I'd be seriously considering RELEGATION to at least L1 or a double figure points deduction.

The EFL has to be pro-active about this otherwise it's going to be a legal 💩⛈️ which will have major consequences
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I doubt that it would lead to relegation. Most likely a points deduction.
 
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