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Some rubbish written about agents

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Perryqhill said:
You make a decent point in some respects there, however why did you switch from the post you replied to - it was all about McNair. All you've done is point out the hypocrisy among fans and the club, which obviously does exist when looking out for their own interests. You couldn't expand on said posters reasoning for fans hating agents as actions like McNair's and his agent are indefensible.

Plus in Ndong and Khazri's case as much as the club would struggle to pay them - they want the move and more or less downed tools anyway. Clearly a balance needs to be struck, but again you side with the player saying the club doesn't want to honour their contracts. If by the way of needing to move them on that's your conclusion, then surely they don't want to honour their contracts either?
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I am not siding with anyone I’m an safc fan. My points are simply we’ve been awful at buying and selling players and this anti agent stuff by the club is a smokescreen as the club wants all these players gone

riffraff said:
Your info is nowt new. Everyone with any common sense has known both the old and new regimes has wanted the high earning shite out of safc for a while. It’s been a who blinks first situation for a couple of years now at least.

Your sudden appearance with its an agenda driven posting on here is what I was obviously referring to as dumb. I’ve obviously no idea as to your IQ level or educational achievements irl. My first post iirc illustrates this.
.If you’d slipped your views/itkness/agenda onto the board with a tad more subtlety you and agents and players may of received less vitriol, which I pointed out iirc again on my first post. You could’ve reeled a few bites in and/or started off an intelligent conversation instead everyone rightly so has suspicions as to your motivations.

I’ve been informed that you’re possibly MG. If so then your defending of players and agents and their rat off a sinking shipness wanting to have their cake and eat it doesn’t surprise me. If not then I apologise for that and that alone.
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MG I am certainly not . I am an safc fan and support the new owners

My point is merely the club has been crap at doing deals and this anti agent stuff is a smokescreen . The fact I know we want to move players on who we are blaming agents for them wanting to leave I think Is disingenuous
 
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Cat 3 said:
I am not siding with anyone I’m an safc fan. My points are simply we’ve been awful at buying and selling players and this anti agent stuff by the club is a smokescreen as the club wants all these players gone
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As said - clearly not the case in the aforementioned post. You switched it from what you quoted as it was indefensible and you never commented on that point. To then suggest the club doesn't want to honour the contracts of Ndong and Khazri - forgetting their want to leave shows exactly where your loyalties lie.
 
Bukowski said:
One of the worst takes I’ve ever read on here, and that’s saying something.

Putting our situation to one side, the phenomenal amount of money super agents like Raiola take out of the game (which could be reinvested into grassroots level) to line their own pockets every time one of their mega stars gets a move is the single most damaging thing about modern football.
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I am not saying it’s a desirable situation. I am saying we need to be better at the world as it is - most of the replies on here are about wishful thinking of a return to a pre agent world of the 1960s. Football is a £50 billion worldwide industry - agents are going nowhere
 
Cat 3 said:
I am not siding with anyone I’m an safc fan. My points are simply we’ve been awful at buying and selling players and this anti agent stuff by the club is a smokescreen as the club wants all these players gone



MG I am certainly not . I am an safc fan and support the new owners

My point is merely the club has been crap at doing deals and this anti agent stuff is a smokescreen . The fact I know we want to move players on who we are blaming agents for them wanting to leave I think Is disingenuous
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Sorry about the MG thing.
We know the old regime were crap at absolutely everything. We’ve all known for at least a year now, some for a lot longer. We also know the old regimes crap signings have to go anarl.
It’s the seemed agent defending thing that seems suspicious.
 
Chop Buster said:
Agents are the worst thing about the game. Judging by the 'grammar' in your first sentence you are probably one of them, thick as owt.
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Yeah I wish I was as smart as you - you are personally abusive and
Perryqhill said:
As said - clearly not the case in the aforementioned post. You switched it from what you quoted as it was indefensible and you never commented on that point. To then suggest the club doesn't want to honour the contracts of Ndong and Khazri - forgetting their want to leave shows exactly where your loyalties lie.
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I’m an safc fan. We want the players to leave and they want to leave. No moral high ground either side- it’s just a business negotiation about money
 
Cat 3 said:
Yeah I wish I was as smart as you - you are personally abusive and


I’m an safc fan. We want the players to leave and they want to leave. No moral high ground either side- it’s just a business negotiation about money
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Its not just about money though, that's what you don't understand.
 
riffraff said:
Sorry about the MG thing.
We know the old regime were crap at absolutely everything. We’ve all known for at least a year now, some for a lot longer. We also know the old regimes crap signings have to go anarl.
It’s the seemed agent defending thing that seems suspicious.
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I certainly don’t defend agents and some are unethical in their antics. But we need to get better at how we deal with all aspects of player recruitment. Dealing with agents is just one aspect

I think the club blaming agents so much is either a smokescreen or greenness on there behalf. No need for it us fans know we can’t really afford to keep these players

Chop Buster said:
Its not just about money though, that's what you don't understand.
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For the players and club it is all about money
 
Cat 3 said:
I certainly don’t defend agents and some are unethical in their antics. But we need to get better at how we deal with all aspects of player recruitment. Dealing with agents is just one aspect

I think the club blaming agents so much is either a smokescreen or greenness on there behalf. No need for it us fans know we can’t really afford to keep these players



For the players and club it is all about money
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No it isn't, its about success on the pitch.
 
The agents are playing their slimey little games and Stewart Donald is outing them to all SAFC supporters. I know who's side I'm on. We have to think of ourselves as a club both collectively and finacially and if it means dishing out some home truths to greedy players so be it. They want to take us for every last penny let's give them plenty of bile to wash it down with....lets see how long they want to stay then.
 
riffraff said:
Sorry about the MG thing.
We know the old regime were crap at absolutely everything. We’ve all known for at least a year now, some for a lot longer. We also know the old regimes crap signings have to go anarl.
It’s the seemed agent defending thing that seems suspicious.
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Who’s MG ?
 
Cat 3 said:
The owner has publicly said he may stay. The club have let it be known they want him off wage bill
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And they all want to leave, because the League they Fookin put us in is beneath them, but no one will give them contracts we have. When the game is awash with money you'd think clubs would be knocking the door down to sign these "Superstars" on terms equal or better than what they have........But they're not are they........
 
themanagersnot2blame said:
That would be fair enough if we wanted him to stay... I’m pretty sure we will be desperate for him to go to get him off the wage bill. It doesn’t make for a great negotiating position for us. I fear it will be the Rodwell situation all over again.

It’s a game of brinkmanship - both parties want the move. The agent and player will want to use our weakended position to ensure a position that they would have no chance of agreeing on the open market. The player will want a deal as good as (or better than) the one he’s got at a higher level or simply anywhere he can make a fresh start. The agent will want his pay day too. There is not a hope in hell of him getting that without SAFC part funding it - unfortunately we’re gonna need to suck that up.

We tried the hard ball approach with Rodwell - effectively trying to bully him out of the club. I respected us trying that approach but clearly it backfired. My learning from that episode is that footballers and their agents on the whole are intrinsically greedy and are happy to see out an unpleasant situation and risk destroying their career to ensure the best financial outcome in the short term. We should of course try to negotiate to the best of our ability but at no point should we kidnourselves that they will ‘do the right thing’ for the club or their future prospects and lean too heavily on that when negotiating.
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Third party greed is a problem for SAFC and Jack.

Rodwell is like a rag doll pulled back and forth between two angry pitbulls.

If he has any sense he'll take a settlement and look for a less stressful existence.
 
Cat 3 said:
The owner has publicly said he may stay. The club have let it be known they want him off wage bill
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No he said his agent has categorically stated he won’t play for us again and the player has nothing to say. Are you trying to say thats not true?
 
I notice this thread is still plodding on.
Has anyone other than the OP written any rubbish about agents, or is everyone else talking common sense?
 
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