Solider F

I never did that

I have never condoned the killings of innocents

You put an expigated league table up, I merely pointed out it was missing loads and loads
You seem to have posted plenty of reasons why the cowardly ira scum murdered and maimed innocent men, woman and children. Most of them from hundreds of years ago.

It seems very similar to justifying them

You certainly aren't condemning them

Edit: by the way.. I didn't put a table up, i didn't bring numbers into it. You did
 
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There are places mine Galway that are all Irish but few and far between
Isn't that probably because it's a naturally dying language in the modern civilised world?
Working around the globe I find most countries speak one of about half a dozen languages. Irish certainly isn't one of them
 

CatRyan

Striker
You seem to have posted plenty of reasons why the cowardly ira scum murdered and maimed innocent men, woman and children. Most of them from hundreds of years ago.

It seems very similar to justifying them

You certainly aren't condemning them
Which is why I was asking when you would forgive such an occupation?

You still hold France responsible for 1066, you went to war over an island of puffins.

When would you expect the Irish to just get over their population still being less than half what it was before they were slaughtered in their beds, starved, kicked off their lands.

They never for their lands back.
They will never get their records back.
Their many many dead.
They will never get their language back.
They will never get their country back.

When do you think they should get over that?
When would you if it was done to you?

How about a peace March that was then turned in to a blood bath of British soldiers executing unarmed youths and elderly people?

How about reneging on peace treaties?
How about allowing Catholics to be the worst treated minority in the United kingdom?
This isn't all from hundreds of years ago but it isn't unrelated to the situation now given the egregious nature of the occupation and the suffering incurred.

Isn't that probably because it's a naturally dying language in the modern civilised world?
Working around the globe I find most countries speak one of about half a dozen languages. Irish certainly isn't one of them
No it is because it was actively wiped out with prison or worse for those not abiding by the draconian laws imposed
 
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Isn't that probably because it's a naturally dying language in the modern civilised world?
Working around the globe I find most countries speak one of about half a dozen languages. Irish certainly isn't one of them
Cat's argument is its dying because of British interference. She has a point.

We'll get our comeuppance. We'll all be speaking Arabic in 500 years. ;)
 

CatRyan

Striker
Cat's argument is its dying because of British interference. She has a point.

We'll get our comeuppance. We'll all be speaking Arabic in 500 years. ;)
It was wiped out completely in 100 years in a clear and constructed programme to do so.
.you are not in all seriousness implying that it just died off through lack of interest?
:lol::lol::lol: Ireland the country of poets and singers as heroes just losing interest in their language. Fuck me
 

Keith S30S

Inside right
Staff member
I know what you are saying, if there was a kill order out more should go down, but this lad was a complete savage, killing half dead men on the ground and unarmed people trying to help the injured, its no wonder they centred on him, its quite obvious he is evil of the highest order.
And what are the terrorists (on both sides) who are sitting at home with a pipe and slippers, choir boys?

There are many 100's with blood on their hands re: Northern Ireland. Some who were convicted of the murder of women and kids who served a pittance of a sentence or none at all.

There are hundreds killed who's terrorists killers were never brought to justice, despite many people knowing their names. Is that OK?

I'll say it again for the hard of thinking. Amnesty for all or none.
 
Which is why I was asking when you would forgive such an occupation?

You still hold France responsible for 1066, you went to war over an island of puffins.

When would you expect the Irish to just get over their population still being less than half what it was before they were slaughtered in their beds, starved, kicked off their lands.

They never for their lands back.
They will never get their records back.
Their many many dead.
They will never get their language back.
They will never get their country back.

When do you think they should get over that?
When would you if it was done to you?

How about a peace March that was then turned in to a blood bath of British soldiers executing unarmed youths and elderly people?

How about reneging on peace treaties?
How about allowing Catholics to be the worst treated minority in the United kingdom?
This isn't all from hundreds of years ago but it isn't unrelated to the situation now given the egregious nature of the occupation and the suffering incurred.
The English moved on many many years ago.
No-one holds animosity to the Normans (French) for invading and conquering us. FFS it was way before anyone here was born. Why be so bitter and backward looking.

Imagine ... thinking murdering children in a shopping center is justified because of actions or decisions taken by Oliver Cromwell. If you have to go that far back to find hate you really are sick

I'm all for the people of NI to decide their own fate democratically by voting for independence. If they want independence or unity with Eire good luck to them. Let them vote for it, not murder and bully their cowardly way to it.

Anyone who can't condemn cowardly scum murdering children in shopping centers needs to have a rethink in my opinion.

Just for one moment imagine it was your family in that shopping center

It was wiped out completely in 100 years in a clear and constructed programme to do so.
.you are not in all seriousness implying that it just died off through lack of interest?
:lol::lol::lol: Ireland the country of poets and singers as heroes just losing interest in their language. Fuck me
No thanks
 
I'm all for the people of NI to decide their own fate democratically by voting for independence. If they want independence or unity with Eire good luck to them. Let them vote for it, not murder and bully their cowardly way to it.
They will get that vote eventually. Probably sooner that they would have given Brexit imo.

As unpalatable as it is they are unlikely to have gotten that commitment from the British Government without the troubles and the GFA.
 
They will get that vote eventually. Probably sooner that they would have given Brexit imo.

As unpalatable as it is they are unlikely to have gotten that commitment from the British Government without the troubles and the GFA.
Good luck to them if its decided democratically and not by hate based on warped hate
 

FootballFan

Striker
And what are the terrorists (on both sides) who are sitting at home with a pipe and slippers, choir boys?

There are many 100's with blood on their hands re: Northern Ireland. Some who were convicted of the murder of women and kids who served a pittance of a sentence or none at all.

There are hundreds killed who's terrorists killers were never brought to justice, despite many people knowing their names. Is that OK?

I'll say it again for the hard of thinking. Amnesty for all or none.
Thats kind of missing the point IMO - this was a services man who went AWOL and killed people left right and centre. It was nowt to do with terrorism, a civil rights march.

I take @CatRyan s point, perhaps there was an order to get stuck in if any trouble, but still what this lad has done is simple cold blooded murder, there is no excuse.
 
I got that one wrong fair play, grammar police in action. He went mental then

edit - sounded good when typing it mind
More fact checker than grammar police. :lol:

The bloke will have his day in court. Personally I doubt he'll be found guilty given the burden of proof.

This should have been dealt with before Star Wars was a thing rather than being whitewashed.
 

FootballFan

Striker
More fact checker than grammar police. :lol:

The bloke will have his day in court. Personally I doubt he'll be found guilty given the burden of proof.

This should have been dealt with before Star Wars was a thing rather than being whitewashed.
there are living witnesses, so he will go down IMO.

The travesty is that its only him.
 

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