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SOL expansion


Sporty said:
He's just being his usual negative club bashing self. He's also either ignoring or more than likely oblivious to the fact the away fans don't always sell out in the Championship but we can't sell their sections right next to them.
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You don’t need to leave as much segregation as we do, as proven by other grounds. That’s a club choice.
 
DonaldDownTheWing said:
There’s just no need to extend/expand until demand meets supply, or at least gets close to it.

We need more hospitality because we’re close to full, especially in the more popular areas. We don’t need more standard seats.

They’ve been on sale for over 24 hours and it’s still dead easy to buy one. If we were needing extending they’d have gone in hours.
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It’s at the limit now. There’s what, 1,500 season tickets left? Any hospitality? Sold out in most places.

I’ve never said standard seats. Like anything any expansion isn’t about little plastic red seats. It’s about improving the offering, increasing hospitality areas and maximising revenue from fans, business owners and corporates.

The stadium will be no longer fit for purpose in 5-10 years with the concourses, hospitality areas unless they are improved and extended.

I’ll also add there’s no chance of us competing with newcastle for concerts if they redevelop or move and we don’t do these things.

It needs to make money 365 days a year.

It all comes hand in hand. You seem to think it’s only seating
 
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Sporty said:
All probably down to the health and safety stuff along with access for the away fans given there's still knackers out there that like to cause trouble at matches. There's no way they'd put them back in the South Stand like they originally were as it would mean more mixing between supporters.
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Aye be interesting to see if there's a way to allow away fans in the front of the away end. As far as I'm aware, there's no other grounds which have took out the front blocks, mags included.
 
DonaldDownTheWing said:
You don’t need to leave as much segregation as we do, as proven by other grounds. That’s a club choice.
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You think the club chose to not sell tickets? We know the fuck on we have with the people that run the security aspects of the club. You know being involved with the flags and stuff it’s not just the club being awkward they have others advising and calling the shots regards that stuff.
 
Mackemansj1 said:
They did for two season then the rest is history as we started the yo yo ing and then ended up in league wan for four years. If we’d had kicked on those first two seasons it was open our last 15 year or so would’ve been very different m. To get relegated was it a season or two after the extension did wonders for attendances 😂
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We’ve had 3 decent seasons in the top flight in my life time supporting Sunderland in 42 years. 3!

Its not hard to imagine if they get it right the sol isn’t needs improving and extending.
 
Blyth said:
It’s at the limit now. There’s what, 1,500 season tickets left? Any hospitality? Sold out in most places.

I’ve never said standard seats. Like anything any expansion isn’t about little plastic red seats. It’s about improving the offering, increasing hospitality areas and maximising revenue from fans, business owners and corporates.

The stadium will be no longer fit for purpose in 5-10 years with the concourses, hospitality areas unless they are improved and extended.

It all comes hand in hand. You seem to think it’s only seating
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It’s not now, I don’t even bother trying to get a drink or food as it’s not worth the hassle.
 
Blyth said:
It’s at the limit now. There’s what, 1,500 season tickets left? Any hospitality? Sold out in most places.

I’ve never said standard seats. Like anything any expansion isn’t about little plastic red seats. It’s about improving the offering, increasing hospitality areas and maximising revenue from fans, business owners and corporates.

The stadium will be no longer fit for purpose in 5-10 years with the concourses, hospitality areas unless they are improved and extended.

It all comes hand in hand. You seem to think it’s only seating
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Don't forget standing, i think an expansion of that would be really handy. Obviously that would come out of existing seats not an extension, not sure if that's already happening?
 
Mackemansj1 said:
You think the club chose to not sell tickets? We know the fuck on we have with the people that run the security aspects of the club. You know being involved with the flags and stuff it’s not just the club being awkward they have others advising and calling the shots regards that stuff.
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Aye it’s the safety team, who are employed by the club.

The club chose not to sell a random strip of seats in the south stand for years. Who knows why the make certain decisions.
 
Blyth said:
It’s at the limit now. There’s what, 1,500 season tickets left? Any hospitality? Sold out in most places.

I’ve never said standard seats. Like anything any expansion isn’t about little plastic red seats. It’s about improving the offering, increasing hospitality areas and maximising revenue from fans, business owners and corporates.

The stadium will be no longer fit for purpose in 5-10 years with the concourses, hospitality areas unless they are improved and extended.

I’ll also add there’s no chance of us competing with newcastle for concerts if they redevelop or move and we don’t do these things.

It needs to make money 365 days a year.

It all comes hand in hand. You seem to think it’s only seating
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Extending the concourses would be expensive but it’s achievable, especially the north stand.

I agree we need more corporate, better events spaces etc etc.
 
Mackemansj1 said:
It’s not now, I don’t even bother trying to get a drink or food as it’s not worth the hassle.
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100% I go if I’m busting for a piss.

The stadium of light has been built as a football stadium. You’ll not get any new stadiums with that mentality.

For me that’s a sad thing, but they need to be entertainment venues. It’s just the way the game is going and we can’t stop it.
 
Zimba said:
Pretty much started when another ground in the North East first started getting mentioned about being rebuilt. Genuinely think some people just want to expand it so it's bigger than the mags, the same people keep mentioning them in their posts so they're clearly in their mind when posting.
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It’s because there are newer stadiums now and redevelopment plans afoot at a lot of clubs and we want to keep up or be better. It’s also because the stadium has deteriorated further over the course of the last 8 years. Plenty of people on here used to comment on the stadium being symbolic of Short’s latter days at the club; uncared for and unloved. Pink seats, rusting roof, discolouration everywhere, knackered speakers.

Not sure why it has to be viewed entirely through a ‘jealous of the Mags’ prism which IMO is short sighted and juvenile. Sunderland as a city is modernising and improving. Its biggest landmark should be as well.
 
Zimba said:
The capacity is still 49k though? We just chose to give up 2.5k since we never sold them anyway for segregation reasons. If you want the seats back, then sort out the segregation issues ie. move the away fans.
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In his defence we’ve never had a crowd of 49,000 or near it. 48,300 odd I believe is the SOL’s highest record crowd, and I’m sure that was before we used to say the capacity was 49,000. Even before the missile throwing started in League One, that reduced ‘real terms’ matchday capacity due to reductions in the away end, our sellouts in the Premier League long before this were always 47,000 odd.

For the Richardson mags free kick match, there was strangely barely any segregation between us and them. Look at Cisse’s goal and it proves it. Crowd that day was 47,900. Where was the 1,100 empty seats that day? It was packed to the rafters.

Other teams’ sell outs always seem to be only a few hundred short of their capacity, so can never understand how even before the recent away end restrictions ours were always a lot below the capacity. Even more baffling when one side of the away end needs no segregation because it’s up against a giant metal roof/wall.
 
Sea to Shining Sea said:
It’s because there are newer stadiums now and redevelopment plans afoot at a lot of clubs and we want to keep up or be better. It’s also because the stadium has deteriorated further over the course of the last 8 years. Plenty of people on here used to comment on the stadium being symbolic of Short’s latter days at the club; uncared for and unloved. Pink seats, rusting roof, discolouration everywhere, knackered speakers.

Not sure why it has to be viewed entirely through a ‘jealous of the Mags’ prism which IMO is short sighted and juvenile. Sunderland as a city is modernising and improving. Its biggest landmark should be as well.
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Don't think anyone has any arguments about making it better but there's very little arguments for more seats. It's been going on for years even when we were in League One and it's the same people who double/triple down and don't really have any reasons bar; if this, that, something else and also this happens then we might need it.
 
YorkMackem said:
I don't see why a brick or block build and roofing would be that expensive like
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If you left the food/drink stands where they are you could just build another perimeter wall, connect the roof, knock down the old wall and voila. (I know I’ve simplified this a lot). But then you’d have bars and food stalls in the middle of the concourse which seems daft so to move them all with associated leccy & water etc would be expensive.
 
Sgt Pepper said:
In his defence we’ve never had a crowd of 49,000 or near it. 48,300 odd I believe is the SOL’s highest record crowd, and I’m sure that was before we used to say the capacity was 49,000. Even before the missile throwing started in League One, that reduced ‘real terms’ matchday capacity due to reductions in the away end, our sellouts in the Premier League long before this were always 47,000 odd.

For the Richardson mags free kick match, there was strangely barely any segregation between us and them. Look at Cisse’s goal and it proves it. Crowd that day was 47,900. Where was the 1,100 empty seats that day? It was packed to the rafters.

Other teams’ sell outs always seem to be only a few hundred short of their capacity, so can never understand how even before the recent away end restrictions ours were always a lot below the capacity. Even more baffling when one side of the away end needs no segregation because it’s up against a giant metal roof/wall.
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Aye no arguments, it is a strange one. We do seem to really overdo the segregation as like you said it's never been anywhere near the capacity.

Mind speaking of that, does anyone actually know what the capacity truely is? There's been lots of movement ie. media at the back etc if every seat was filled.
 
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