So the Ashes are Lost
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Separate coaches needed now, Bayliss did a great job with short formats and should be commended, hopelessly inadequate with the long form though.
I’d get Dizzy Gillespie as the test coach, someone like Stephen Fleming for ODI’s and T20.
I’d get Dizzy Gillespie as the test coach, someone like Stephen Fleming for ODI’s and T20.
Jack Torrance
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Spineless is harsh, they're just not good enough
GordonMuchallNo1Fan
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Now now you can't criticise in an extreme manner. Everything is fine, new competition next year etc
mackembhoy
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ECB have to shoulder a portion of the blame
We've focused on white ball success to complete detriment of the test game
Aussies had more red ball practice this summer than our players. They also have a side different to the one that played in the world cup ours is very similar.
We've focused on white ball success to complete detriment of the test game
Aussies had more red ball practice this summer than our players. They also have a side different to the one that played in the world cup ours is very similar.
brandon
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No, it isn’t harsh at all. They’re flakey as fuck.
Yep, who’d have thought picking specialist red ball players would be a recipe for success.
Ageing trundler
Midfield
Same thing happens every year, the Blast is played when England are playing tests. Schedule it at the end of the season, as an event where England players can play. The CC/50 over cup can be done by mid-August (as can tests/ODIs). And as for The Hundred...
I would echo those sentiments
Captain not good enough
Openers not good enough
Selection fucked
Missed 2 of our best bowlers
Smith is a fuckin cheating **** and I don't accept all this "genius" lark - he's a f***ing freak who will be found out soon enough
Bayliss Out
Root Out
Roy, Bairstow, Overton, Denly and Leach Out
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Voice of fair play
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Is nobody going to be gracious or sporting enough to say we have been beaten by nothing short of a brilliant series by Smith and superb bowling by Hazelwood and Cummins and give them credit for their performances
Are are we too busy calling our own players who ultimately gave their best but will be beaten by the above.
Both best batsman on both sides by a mile played in the World Cup as did possibly their best bowler
Who were the red ball specialists who did the business for the Aussies like?
Their best two players Smith and Cummins played in the World Cup.
Are are we too busy calling our own players who ultimately gave their best but will be beaten by the above.
Both best batsman on both sides by a mile played in the World Cup as did possibly their best bowler
Who were the red ball specialists who did the business for the Aussies like?
Their best two players Smith and Cummins played in the World Cup.
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Paddy O'Dors
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An absolute clusterfuck in the planning and execution.
wayne entwhistle no9
Winger
Don't worry lads back to proper cricket on Tuesday the county championship is back.
Sharpshooter
Midfield
Jinx thread like the last one? 
Mr Redknapp
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I know people are pissed off but to call
Steve Smith overrated is ridiculous, England can't get multiple batsmen to get the runs he does.
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Voice of fair play
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Jinx thread like the last one?
Got a feeling he is right this time though
I know, I know I just hate him and his freaky fucked up "technique" - he irritates me more than any other Aussie cricketer ever has - and he's a cheat who should never have been allowed to play the game again
SAFC 2012
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Smith will be found out soon enough?
I hate the fucker but thats absolute nonsense. Hes getting better every time he plays ffs
I live in hope. EVERY batsman has a weakness, it's just finding it that's the issue
Great so we have Root out. Who replaces him?
Also we get shot of Roy, Bairstow, Overton, Denly and Leach. Who replaces them?
Absolutely ridiculous the way people go on mind.
I remember social media being full of ‘spineless’ comments after the Aussies humped us in the World Cup. Funny how that all went quiet after we won it.
Smith has been the absolute difference this series. Broad and archer have given a very good Aussie new ball pair a run for money but their change options and spinner are just simply better than we have. If Anderson had been fit and Archer was our change things again may have played out slightly different.
Ultimately though this has been Smiths series, an absolute masterclass of batting on pitches that have actually offered a bit.
People will wax lyrical about hr Tendulkars, Lara’s etc but this lad has operated on an even different level to them this series.
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I honestly don't know
Foakes for Bairstow is the obvious one
Roy and Denly? Not a clue? Sibley and Pope?
Anderson, Woakes or Wood replaces Overton
Leach? Not a clue. Ali would be the obvious one if he can find some red ball form
Root is (and never has been) Captain material He doesn't have the personality or the cricket brain
Buttler is the obvious replacement but his place in the side is far from secure
As long as they don't try and ruin Stokes by giving it to him
Burns, Sibley, Root, Pope, Stokes, Buttler (c), Foakes (w), Ali, Archer, Broad, Anderson/Wood/Stone/Woakes
It makes for depressing reading, but this England Test side is the poorest in 20 years
Wouldn't disagree with that. I think the twisting and calling for change is borne out of pure frustration that we aren't able to compete with the Aussies at home for the first time in 18 years. Back in the 90s it was frustrating, but they had Langer, Hayden, Martyn, Waugh(s), Ponting, Border, Boon, Healy, Gilchrist etc etc
Now they have Harris, Wade, Head etc and they are still crushing us due to the exploits of one freak
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