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Simon Grayson - please go now. Cheers.

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AC Mack said:
Ah, so everyone else is saying it.

If you think I say the same as everyone else then you're probably best logging off and not coming back.
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You can say what you want, but think of something original, every time someone puts a rational opinion instead of just slagging the players or the club off it's the same thing you must work for the club in some capacity!!
 

pwsafc said:
He's talking about fans who never go to games, and he's right about some coming out of the woodwork, I know a few who I never knew were safc fans and now they can't stop slagging the team off. Grayson is wrong to have a go at fans in public, but some of what he is saying is right
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No it's not :lol:
 
Bagpuss said:
He has admitted that he has made mistakes during interviews.

he may have said that 'early doors' but has he learned from them?... and having a pop at the fans in any context is always a bad move.



Like I said, you want me to bet you £50 if Grayson is sacked that results will improve from here on in when I believe that as the squad gels and injured players return this will happen anyway? Aye, sounds like a great bet :rolleyes:
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i have said all along it would be a slow start, this is basically a new team that has been thrown together and reminds me a lot of the early peter reid team and BSA's...i am not in the 'grayson out' team as i do think the team will improve but these mistakes need to be stopped asap.
 
Confucius said:
I would say someone who has the club at heart has every right to criticise the players and performances. They certainly have more right than a paid employee doing a shite job has to criticise fans, whether they go or not. I would also suggest that someone saying we haven't been outplayed yet shouldn't be taken seriously at all. We are in the shite from top to bottom but this bloke is making a pigs of ear of what we have and a mockery of the fans. He needs to go
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Mate. That is a magnificent post.
Sums up the situation perfectly.
Grayson needs to do. Sooner the better
 
toosb said:
So Grayson thinks that critical Sunderland fans are "coming out of the woodwork" and they "don't know what it's like to go to Ipswich on a Tuesday night".

Big mistake.

In fact, a fatal mistake to turn on the fans.

Thousands of Sunderland fans know exactly what it's like to travel all over the country on a Tuesday night.
And they'll be there long after this idiot has been sacked.

They didn't know what it was like to be below Burton Albion until
Grayson arrived mind you.

And they're not coming out of the woodwork. They're disappearing into it to hide from this shambles of a team.

He's turned on the fans after 10 games - in fact he mentioned moaning fans after the 9th game v Cardiff.

He sat there today and in all seriousness said that the Ipswich game was close.

He f***ing said that they were on the ropes at 4-2 up. :lol:
He did. He really did say that.

He said that we had chances to get something from the game.

We conceded 5 goals man you f***ing prick. We needed to score 5 goals to get a draw.

So what do the happy clapping morons think of this then? Stick with him for stability?

He's worse than Moyes. By a distance. There I've said it.

Fuck off Grayson. Fuck off from our club now.
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I am probably the very definition of what people see on here as a happy clapper. I don't get on managers and players backs as I dont think it helps one bit, but that does not mean I can't see what's happening and am happy about it.

Grayson however has already proven to me that he's completely clueless and has been instrumental in the way we have started this season. He does not seem to have any tactics or game plan and the sooner he goes the better as far as I am concerned. We can't afford to pay him off mind which is probably the only reason he's still here. I have seen us live 12 times this season including pre season and the record is Played 12 Won 3 Drew 2 Lost 7 For 11 Against 24. 2 of the 3 wins were pre season friendlies at Hartlepool (non league) and Bradford, plus Carlisle in the cup which we are now out of anyway. The 7 league games I have seen have produced 2 points and a goal difference of 4 to 12 (-8)

I have seen us relegated 9 times now I think and this team is easily as bad as any of those sides. Grayson will take us down without a shadow of a doubt and it won't be my fault or your fault.
 
tynevalleyblackcat said:
I am probably the very definition of what people see on here as a happy clapper. I don't get on managers and players backs as I dont think it helps one bit, but that does not mean I can't see what's happening and am happy about it.

Grayson however has already proven to me that he's completely clueless and has been instrumental in the way we have started this season. He does not seem to have any tactics or game plan and the sooner he goes the better as far as I am concerned. We can't afford to pay him off mind which is probably the only reason he's still here. I have seen us live 12 times this season including pre season and the record is Played 12 Won 3 Drew 2 Lost 7 For 11 Against 24. 2 of the 3 wins were pre season friendlies at Hartlepool (non league) and Bradford, plus Carlisle in the cup which we are now out of anyway. The 7 league games I have seen have produced 2 points and a goal difference of 4 to 12 (-8)

I have seen us relegated 9 times now I think and this team is easily as bad as any of those sides. Grayson will take us down without a shadow of a doubt and it won't be my fault or your fault.
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Aye but were you at Ipswich, if not dont comment.;)
 
G Force said:
He's had a 'patronising little cock' from me because it's true.

I've never put a Sunderland fan on ignore in over 15 years on here, but he's becoming the first. He's f***ing mental
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How on earth will I get through my days knowing you have me on ignore, any chance you can talk your pal Cartwright into it too, its really undignified watching you two clowns wet your panties all day. :lol:
 
G Force said:
Sorry?

Where the fuck have I ever said I 'abuse the players' nevermind our new players? Look at my posts over the past years :confused: You'll even find recent posts of mine defending Grayson

I have an issue with you saying our fans are the problem.

Can you find me a few clubs with a worse record over the past 5-6 seasons? The fact I've asked 5 or 6 times means it's not an easy feat.

Oh, I forgot you won't be able to. That's because they don't have nasty Sunderland fans abusing them
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You ever going to acknowledge this @Bagpuss?

You completely misread most of my posts last night and acted like an arse.

I also didn't mention something about "5 goals" that you had a dig at me about. Another misquote.

You constantly went off on one without bothering to actually read what I was saying.

It's the following morning, are you going to be man enough to admit you kept diving in and blaming me for things I've never once said? Or are you going to waffle on about something else I haven't said or done.

Over to you
 
Mainze said:
No it's not :lol:
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Here in lies the problem, utter denial, the fans are perfect, never once do they create a toxic atmosphere or damage players confidence by booing or abusing them during the game.

G Force said:
You ever going to acknowledge this @Bagpuss?

You completely misread most of my posts last night and acted like an arse.

I also didn't mention something about "5 goals" that you had a dig at me about. Another misquote.

You constantly went off on one without bothering to actually read what I was saying.

It's the following morning, are you going to be man enough to admit your kept diving in and blaming me for things I've never once said? Or are you going to waffle on about something else I haven't said or done.

Over to you
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I thought I was on block, clearly not.
 
Bagpuss said:
I thought I was on block, clearly not.
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Not yet. I haven't blocked a Sunderland fan in over 15 years and I'm loathe to do so.

I see you refused to acknowledge the post again mind, instead going off on another tangent.

You struggle to admit when you're wrong don't you? I've seen your type before
 
Bagpuss said:
Here in lies the problem, utter denial, the fans are perfect, never once do they create a toxic atmosphere or damage players confidence by booing or abusing them during the game.



I thought I was on block, clearly not.
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Happens at every ground in the country, it's just a pathetic excuse to absolve them from their shortcomings.
 
Bagpuss said:
its really undignified watching you two clowns wet your panties all day. :lol:
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Wet my panties? Care to elaborate?

Bagpuss said:
So why are you abusing the players who have been here 2 months....Thick as bulls lugs man, you are slagging off people that have just arrived because we have been shit for 5 years before they arrived....How on earth does that make any sense whatsoever in your head?

If you got divorced then remarried would you start giving your new wife shit cause your x wife was a c unt? Actually dont answer that, I think I already know the answer.
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Going to show me where I've abused the players?

You've chatted shite about me all thread. Your main problem is you're replying to what you perceive I've said, rather than what I've actually said. Constantly.

I don't expect you admit you're wrong mind. It's clearly beyond you
 
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