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Significant investment by FPP has been made

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One thing we need, to give targets a reason to come here. I expected players to be jumping over themselves to join us in League One, but we still haven't got that special sauce.
Why would they? If a team in the championship wants you, then they are in a higher league and are more likely to pay you more. We've attracted a fair few league one players, which makes sense as that is their level.
 
I may be misremembering but I thought we were in for quite a few different strikers and were getting either turned down or quoted ridiculous sums because "we're sunderland" and then Grigg seemed to be the only possible one but we basically had our trousers pulled down by the end of it out of, as you said, desperation to get someone in.

Which is exactly one of the reasons I find too many people on this forum take a simplified view of how easy it is to run the club. I highly doubt Donald actually wanted to get a player in at the last second on such big numbers.
Well once we signed him he was "our number one target" all along. Maybe he was. Maybe not. Who knows.

On that front, I totally agree.

We'll go back to @Fetch Fletch's comment though about expecting players to be jumping over each other to get here, and especially going back to summer 2018. Why were players like Lyle Taylor going to Charlton instead of us?
 
I find fault, I just don't shout about how angry it makes me, especially when I'm aware that I have pretty much zero information about the goings on behind the scenes and therefore am in no position to determine the cause of the fault.

The thing is, almost all our fans have as much information as me - pretty much none - and yet there's a subgroup of this zero information category that make up their own conclusions based on joining the few dots they have, and getting really angry about this scenario that they themselves have invented!

The way I see it:

What we had during Short's reign: A club that was spending more than it was bringing in to try to "buy" success but ultimately failed in that task, and stuck us with a massive infrastructure and a take-the-piss mentality behind the scenes.
What we had at the end of Short's reign: A club in freefall that was haemorrhaging money, still with a massive infrastructure for a club in our division and still with a take-the-piss mentality behind the scenes.
What SD/CM did immediately: Stopped the freefall and made us a sustainable club while cutting out all the deadwood behind the scenes, ready for investment and a revamp.
What SD/CM are doing now: Rebuilding everything that needed pulling down and rebuilding. Bringing in very wealthy investors who may well choose to invest more in the future.

It might not be happening at a breakneck pace, but things are happening nonetheless. Improvements almost certainly. It's essentially still a building site, but one that has grand plans that are designed to make us all happier. Is this not something we should all be saluting?
Well done mate great post
 
Can you send me the costings that have been published for existing scouting and academy development please mate?
ok wycombe's whole football department costs £2m a year to run..the whole thing..frm slaary of first team manager all the way down to cost of half time ornages for kids teams..

does any other league one club have a cat one academy? if not, then they are spending less than us.
richdale dont actulaly have a proper trainign ground...
 
Is it OK if I have reservations about the blokes tasked with using this investment wisely?

If this what you were talking about in your reply yesterday I absolutely get this. I've been critical myself of decision making over the past year.
I'm just hoping that because of the amount of money involved, the length of time this took, and the strings attached to where its spent, and the people involved - that they are heavily influencing decision making regarding their investment.

Time will tell mate.
 
Well once we signed him he was "our number one target" all along. Maybe he was. Maybe not. Who knows.

On that front, I totally agree.

We'll go back to @Fetch Fletch's comment though about expecting players to be jumping over each other to get here, and especially going back to summer 2018. Why were players like Lyle Taylor going to Charlton instead of us?
I find that bizarre like, no disrespect to Charlton or Peterborough or whoever but if was was a player and I could play for Sunderland over them I'd be doing everything I could to make it happen, even if the money was the same I could potentially go through the league's with the club and earn more anyway longer term.

But even aside from that surely you'd want to play in a stadium like ours, would you rather work for Citroen or Jaguar?
 
I find that bizarre like, no disrespect to Charlton or Peterborough or whoever but if was was a player and I could play for Sunderland over them I'd be doing everything I could to make it happen, even if the money was the same I could potentially go through the league's with the club and earn more anyway longer term.

But even aside from that surely you'd want to play in a stadium like ours, would you rather work for Citroen or Jaguar?
This! Here’s the keys. You’re choice, Rolls Royce or Seat. Seat.Good luck in playing for Charlton and Barnsley
 
charlotn are in london..the only player we lost to them is a londoner...no league one signings should have a rolls royce..
my father in law used to say sunderland are a rolls royce with a skoda engine.. this is fantastic news about the investment.. but i hope they are having some direct influence in the running of the club.. or we are going nowhere with these two in charge..
 
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