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Short, Byrne, Congerton, Poyet, McNamee

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We're a strange club to support. One minute seemingly fucked, 2 or 3 games later looking ok, then 2 or 3 games after that; fucked again.

It is a huge roller coaster.

Lowest point of the season so far - Southampton game - disgraceful, the pits, seething....:evil:
High point of the season - yesterday - superb, ecstacy, over the moon.

No idea what next month brings.
 
The Omega Man said:
We're a strange club to support. One minute seemingly fucked, 2 or 3 games later looking ok, then 2 or 3 games after that; fucked again.

It is a huge roller coaster.

Lowest point of the season so far - Southampton game - disgraceful, the pits, seething....:evil:
High point of the season - yesterday - superb, ecstacy, over the moon.

No idea what next month brings.
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Both at one point or another probably.
 
PISTON said:
I'd still have some of those away if given the choice. We're seventh bottom, not seventh top.

In my opinion we're still underachieving to our potential.
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Short has sanctioned over 150m in player purchases since 2009. This puts us in the top 10 spenders in the period since. No one can deny he has not been generous.
You should be looking at the crap managers not the people you gave a spray to.
Congerton has been here 5 minutes. Rodwell hasn't worked out, fair enough but we were ALL rapt when he signed. Expecting Real Madrid for tuppence after 6 months?
Pants, Gomez, Buckley, Bridcutt, Rev, Vergini cost pennies and have had a reasonable season considering.
As for blaming Byrne...pathetic doesn't begin to describe. She makes sure contracts are signed and the business runs when Short is out of town.
You often bleat about noyt having anyone with football knowledge at the top.
Very few clubs do, but we had NQ there during the whole time horrendous amounts of money were totally wasted..so your ploy there is worthless.
McNamee has gone...chalk one to Piston
 
The Omega Man said:
We're a strange club to support. One minute seemingly fucked, 2 or 3 games later looking ok, then 2 or 3 games after that; fucked again.

It is a huge roller coaster.

Lowest point of the season so far - Southampton game - disgraceful, the pits, seething....:evil:
High point of the season - yesterday - superb, ecstacy, over the moon.

No idea what next month brings.
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so true, )))
 
Right Brainless said:
Short has sanctioned over 150m in player purchases since 2009. This puts us in the top 10 spenders in the period since. No one can deny he has not been generous.
You should be looking at the crap managers not the people you gave a spray to.
Congerton has been here 5 minutes. Rodwell hasn't worked out, fair enough but we were ALL rapt when he signed. Expecting Real Madrid for tuppence after 6 months?
Pants, Gomez, Buckley, Bridcutt, Rev, Vergini cost pennies and have had a reasonable season considering.
As for blaming Byrne...pathetic doesn't begin to describe. She makes sure contracts are signed and the business runs when Short is out of town.
You often bleat about noyt having anyone with football knowledge at the top.
Very few clubs do, but we had NQ there during the whole time horrendous amounts of money were totally wasted..so your ploy there is worthless.
McNamee has gone...chalk one to Piston
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At the time of the OP it was meant as a half serious/half banter thread. Maybe a name or two didn't fully deserve to be on the list but an argument could be made either way.
I would still stand by that part.
Given the choice even today three of them would be gone instantly if suitable replacements were ready to step right in.

As for Poyet, i still have reservations. The one thing i do like is the team spirit which has become more apparent since the OP. Regardless of his questionable signings, occasional surrender and suspect tactics it takes a good man-manager to bond a team.
From where i'm sitting the best thing about our squad is the team spirit. Ultimately Gus is responsible for that and if it was poor he'd get the blame. As it's good he must get the credit.

One derby win(or 4!!) doesn't necessarily mean this club is achieving anywhere close to it's potential. I look at the league table and see clubs that we should be above. That's just my opinion though. you might be delighted with 4th bottom and a derby win.
 
Right Brainless said:
Short has sanctioned over 150m in player purchases since 2009. This puts us in the top 10 spenders in the period since. No one can deny he has not been generous.
You should be looking at the crap managers not the people you gave a spray to.
Congerton has been here 5 minutes. Rodwell hasn't worked out, fair enough but we were ALL rapt when he signed. Expecting Real Madrid for tuppence after 6 months?
Pants, Gomez, Buckley, Bridcutt, Rev, Vergini cost pennies and have had a reasonable season considering.
As for blaming Byrne...pathetic doesn't begin to describe. She makes sure contracts are signed and the business runs when Short is out of town.
You often bleat about noyt having anyone with football knowledge at the top.
Very few clubs do, but we had NQ there during the whole time horrendous amounts of money were totally wasted..so your ploy there is worthless.
McNamee has gone...chalk one to Piston
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There are several absolute vocal loons on this board who will deny Short has been generous, absolute mentalists.
 
PISTON said:
I'd still have some of those away if given the choice. We're seventh bottom, not seventh top.

In my opinion we're still underachieving to our potential.
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This has been done to death now but if you consider the very difficult fixtures we've had to play in the first half of the season, 19 points represents a very good start.
 
PISTON said:
He was generous at the outset, and probably still is to a lesser extent. Has he been wise though??
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Possibly not, I only have an issue with people questioning his financial commitment when its patently obvious he's ploughed more into the club than any previous owner by a country mile.
 
Sweeper said:
This has been done to death now but if you consider the very difficult fixtures we've had to play in the first half of the season, 19 points represents a very good start.
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What set of fixtures do you think would be easy? This is the Premier League. We play each team home and away once. There's far too many good teams nowadays to get runs of "easy" fixtures.
That said, even the "easy games" rarely are.
Very few teams are capable of stringing together a decent run of wins together.

ir35 said:
Possibly not, I only have an issue with people questioning his financial commitment when its patently obvious he's ploughed more into the club than any previous owner by a country mile.
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I don't question that, but there comes a time when you have to ask which is best, £1million in the hands of a wise man or £5million in the hands of a fool?
People will now chip in with multi billionaire hedge fund manager etc etc etc but that is a far different skill set to running a PL football team.
If i had £1,000 to invest in hedge funds i would gladly give it to Ellis, i wouldn't do the same if it was football related.
 
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PISTON said:
What set of fixtures do you think would be easy? This is the Premier League. We play each team home and away once. There's far too many good teams nowadays to get runs of "easy" fixtures.
That said, even the "easy games" rarely are.
Very few teams are capable of stringing together a decent run of wins together.



I don't question that, but there comes a time when you have to ask which is best, £1million in the hands of a wise man or £5million in the hands of a fool?
People will now chip in with multi billionaire hedge fund manager etc etc etc but that is a far different skill set to running a PL football team.
If i had £1,000 to invest in hedge funds i would gladly give it to Ellis, i wouldn't do the same if it was football related.
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If you were to list our 38 games in order of objective difficulty, the ten easiest (or most obviously winnable) games would be the home games against the rest of bottom eleven teams from last season. We have played two of those so far - Stoke and West Ham. We still have most of our best fixtures to come.
 
ir35 said:
Possibly not, I only have an issue with people questioning his financial commitment when its patently obvious he's ploughed more into the club than any previous owner by a country mile.
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Genuine question as I don't know but what's the net spend throughout that period
 
Sweeper said:
If you were to list our 38 games in order of objective difficulty, the ten easiest (or most obviously winnable) games would be the home games against the rest of bottom eleven teams from last season. We have played two of those so far - Stoke and West Ham. We still have most of our best fixtures to come.
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Playing away suits the styles of some of those teams. Just look at last season for a perfect example. We couldn't break down the so called weaker sides and turned the tables on better ones ourselves.
Some of those "lesser" teams look at us as a means to getting points.
The Premier League has changed things. It's no longer a two horse race in terms of competitive opposition.
 
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