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Saudi Arabia 2030


SYB_DC said:
They prosecute people for murder here, you know. And killing someone because they’re gay makes it a hate crime, such killings are eligible for enhanced sentencing, which in some places includes death.

Also, no shit more gay people get murdered in the US: the US has more than 100 times the population of Qatar.
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OK no shit yeah, it's OK prosecuting people but tell that to the families of the deceased then it happens again and again.
Mass shootings are a routine event now, but its not all mass shootings, could the US government do more?
Gay, transgender people are twice as likely to be a victim from gun crime than a straight peer.
Do you really think the government are protecting these people?
 
ErichZann said:
Is nailed on to happen now like.
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That’s why Saudi’s beat Argentina in opening match fixed the draw to give the France/Argentina every chance to happen with Qatars and PSG connections just look at Qatar paying of the EU officials to know there is some truth to it….
 
robbied1 said:
OK no shit yeah, it's OK prosecuting people but tell that to the families of the deceased then it happens again and again.
Mass shootings are a routine event now, but its not all mass shootings, could the US government do more?
Gay, transgender people are twice as likely to be a victim from gun crime than a straight peer.
Do you really think the government are protecting these people?
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This is the first thing you've said in a while that has any resemblance to a coherent point.

No, I do not think the US government does enough to protect LGBT people. But it doesn't do enough to protect any of us from gun crime, and it's no surprise that LGBT folks are disproportionately victims thereof because the types of folks who commit gun crimes here tend to be the same folks who don't like gay people very much.

But the government at least tries to do something, which is a lot more than the Qatari government does to protect gay people. After all, gay sex there is illegal, as are sex outside of marriage and gay marriage, so a single gay sex act in Qatar already subjects the participants to multiple serious charges - one of which carries the death penalty.

This also doesn't do much to prove your original point, which was that gay people are more likely to be killed in the US than Qatar. It's simply not true.
 
robbied1 said:
Yet you're more concerned what's going in in Saudi Arabia than the country you live in? You seem a complete hypocrite to me
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I'm afraid you'll have to back up that point about me being more concerned about what's going on in Saudi Arabia than the US.

And I don't think you're smart enough to even get things sorted out clearly enough to take a run at judging hypocrisy. You'd have to actually understand a single rhetorical or moral position first, let alone two, and then you'd have to construct a comparison between the two; the final task has proven quite conclusively to be beyond your grasp.
 
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SYB_DC said:
This is the first thing you've said in a while that has any resemblance to a coherent point.

No, I do not think the US government does enough to protect LGBT people. But it doesn't do enough to protect any of us from gun crime, and it's no surprise that LGBT folks are disproportionately victims thereof because the types of folks who commit gun crimes here tend to be the same folks who don't like gay people very much.

But the government at least tries to do something, which is a lot more than the Qatari government does to protect gay people. After all, gay sex there is illegal, as are sex outside of marriage and gay marriage, so a single gay sex act in Qatar already subjects the participants to multiple serious charges - one of which carries the death penalty.

This also doesn't do much to prove your original point, which was that gay people are more likely to be killed in the US than Qatar. It's simply not true.
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Your last paragraph, can you tell me when the last person sentenced to death in qatar for being gay was?
 
robbied1 said:
Your last paragraph, can you tell me when the last person sentenced to death in qatar for being gay was?
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You don't provide any evidence for any of your claims, so you don't get to demand the same from anyone else. But to actually provide an answer you don't deserve, the mere fact of being gay is not a crime in Qatar, so nobody gets sentenced to death for it.

But for some more questions you won't answer How many people in the US are in prison for adultery or sodomy? Now how many in Qatar?

Also, you're @Nukehasslefan and if you're not, you two really need to meet. Enjoy the rest of your weird wind-up; it's been fun.
 
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SYB_DC said:
You don't provide any evidence for any of your claims, so you don't get to demand the same from anyone else. But to actually provide an answer you don't deserve, the mere fact of being gay is not a crime in Qatar, so nobody gets sentenced to death for it.

But for some more questions you won't answer How many people in the US are in prison for adultery or sodomy? Now how many in Qatar?

Also, you're @Nukehasslefan.
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So this goes a little way to prove my original point, you are more likely to be killed in America for being gay than Qatar. Over and out.
 
Bring it to Australia and it's backed up by the Olympics in 2032.

Two years of brilliant backpaking and jobs galore for all the Brit kids!
 
robbied1 said:
So this goes a little way to prove my original point, you are more likely to be killed in America for being gay than Qatar. Over and out.
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What in heaven's name are you talking about? What you've just said is like saying two plus A is purple. Do you really not understand the difference between "being killed" and "being sentenced to death"? Because the score on the latter is 0-0 between Qatar and the US, so it does precisely nothing to prove or disprove the original point - for which you've still provided zero evidence.
 
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robbied1 said:
You pulled me up on Qatar originally.
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You are spectacularly good at missing the point. This thread is titled "Saudi Arabia 2030" and you then criticized the fact that I mentioned Saudi Arabia.

Why you're attempting to defend Qatar on a thread about Saudi Arabia is beyond me, but you're doing it in such a spectacular train wreck of a fashion that it was hard not to join in.
 
SYB_DC said:
You are spectacularly good at missing the point. This thread is titled "Saudi Arabia 2030" and you then criticized the fact that I mentioned Saudi Arabia.

Why you're attempting to defend Qatar on a thread about Saudi Arabia is beyond me, but you're doing it in such a spectacular train wreck of a fashion that it was hard not to join in.
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I think he may have had a bit to drink. Would explain his ramblings
 
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