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We whipped ourselves in to a collective frenzy on here this week, and the result yesterday has killed the pillow talk - but nothing has changed really. I'm not optimistic of automatic at all now, but Rotherham and Wigan could equally go on a bad run too and we might pull out of ours. Still a lot of games to play if we can get our shit together. Hard to see it, I know.

I still think he's the right person to get a reaction from those we do have, but also think he'll be frustrated that we didn't get the kind of player pretty much every poster on here thinks we are missing in the window.

If Keane comes he'll do what he knows works, and as it's hard to believe he'll not think that we need a strong, talkative CB and combative midfielder in the summer. I thought at first just give him until the end of the season, but after watching Batth and Metete, I think there's little point in him coming unless we give him at least an 18 month contract to fill them gaps in the summer and give him and not Speakman the power in recruitment.
 
The Cabbage said:
Is that what we want from a candidate though? Ego more important than the club? Not for a moment suggesting it’s true but twisting the clubs arm for a disruptive torching of stuff that has been put in place over more than a year just to consolidate personal power isn’t the sort of behaviour I’d want to see ideally.
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I do t think it's ego before the club. I think it's just him saying if he comes back he wants to do it on his terms to make a difference. I might be totally wrong anyway but the DOF thing always thought it could be an issue. I hope he comes either way as I think he can make a difference
 
Scorer said:
Is that normal though and would you rather wait a while to avoid getting someone like Bruce?
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What’s the difference between that and waiting a fortnight to get McCann or f***ing Warnock?

Every other club who has sacked a manager has waited barely a week at the absolute most to get someone in. The fact Speakman is still babbling about shortlists shows he doesn’t have a clue what he’s doing.
 
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Scootsie said:
Just hoping mate.

The only source I have in football involves a club that matters very little to us.
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Sound mate.

I’m the same, a lad I know is best mates with Hendo, so get the odd snippet about him or Liverpool, rarely.

He told us all Hendo had moved to Liverpool before it was announced, tried everywhere but nowhere would give us odds on it.
 
muffler said:
We whipped ourselves in to a collective frenzy on here this week, and the result yesterday has killed the pillow talk - but nothing has changed really. I'm not optimistic of automatic at all now, but Rotherham and Wigan could equally go on a bad run too and we might pull out of ours. Still a lot of games to play if we can get our shit together. Hard to see it, I know.

I still think he's the right person to get a reaction from those we do have, but also think he'll be frustrated that we didn't get the kind of player pretty much every poster on here thinks we are missing in the window.

If Keane comes he'll do what he knows works, and as it's hard to believe he'll not think that we need a strong, talkative CB and combative midfielder in the summer. I thought at first just give him until the end of the season, but after watching Batth and Metete, I think there's little point in him coming unless we give him at least an 18 month contract to fill them gaps in the summer and give him and not Speakman the power in recruitment.
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I don't believe Keane would even consider a contract till the end of the season. He will have to be offered at least an eighteen month contract.
 
North of the Smoke said:
Equally as baffling is the fact that the players do not take action to remedy it while they can, there is nothing stopping someone taking the initiative and pointing out tpo the lads what needs to be done and getting them rattled. We lack on field leadership massively, these lads are pros who train all week on what to do, when it goes wrong they need to take responsibility, what happened to this "leadership team" bull?.

The line up yesterday was a kop out, there was a necessity to change it after a pasting the week before, but it never happened. Will Keane change this alone? Not by yelling he won't, we miss Wright and O'Nien more than a few would acknowledge, and giving away a centre half was typically bizarre decision making.

Our squad is decent imo, but we do not utilise it.
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Simply adding in Wright before, plus Evans injury and Winchester in midfield meant we kind of shored it up without addressing all of it, though I'm beginning to think that was simply down to injuries rather than an actual plan. I was critical of Onien when Evans wasn't available as he wasn't disciplined enough for the defensive role, but he was better when Evans was available.

Cirkin's injury for all he's a decent talent meant with three centre halves Doyle was pulled out and less likely to fuck around tippy tappying it with Cirkin and getting caught in possession. Dejaku and Gooch were more direct, maybe lacking defensively but gave some impetus going forward.

Bizarrely though as soon as everyone was fit Johnson went straight back to what wasn't working earlier. We didn't need to stick rigidly to what had been working, but it was if he hadn't spotted were our problems lay and that we needed whatever experience and physicality we could muster in defence and central midfield.
 
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