Romain Mundle

[MikeSAFC]

Traditionally 4 for the deeper midfielder in England, 6 on the continent.

So 4 then!

 

[Arfa Sleep]

So we just accept we can’t compete with Ipswich now? We just accept we are a mid table championship side, who pushes for the play offs?

Basically a Coventry or Boro, but with the added “model” craic. Is that our position now?

One of the biggest mysteries on here for me that. Posters go absolutely nuts, and defensive when someone says a club are bigger than us, especially if Boro or the mags are included in that statement.

However some posters who are the most animate, then make all these excuses of our actions.

Which is it, are we just an historically big club, who now operates at championship level, with a push for promotion. Or are we the humongous club people are so keen to defend?

Yeah we've won fuck all since the 70s

 

[wrighty]

4 has always been centre half for me. I’m 51.

Centre halves used to be 5 and 6 when I started watching .I’m sure Tony Towers was a 4. Numbers all over the place now mind

 

[Dobblemackem]

Yeah we've won fuck all since the 70s

Which is fair enough. If that’s what said posters are happy to accept, but we can’t then argue we are this massive club, and argue we are bigger than the mags, boro Coventry etc.

Based on this logic, historically yes. In the modern game, not a chance.

 

[Coeus]

So we just accept we can’t compete with Ipswich now? We just accept we are a mid table championship side, who pushes for the play offs?

Basically a Coventry or Boro, but with the added “model” craic. Is that our position now?

One of the biggest mysteries on here for me that. Posters go absolutely nuts, and defensive when someone says a club are bigger than us, especially if Boro or the mags are included in that statement.

However some posters who are the most animate, then make all these excuses of our actions.

Which is it, are we just an historically big club, who now operates at championship level, with a push for promotion. Or are we the humongous club people are so keen to defend?

I think both can be true at once, we are in my opinion a huge club, fans, history, facilities but that doesn't mean we can spend like one because it doesn't equate to huge club finances.

 

[Dobblemackem]

I think both can be true at once, we are in my opinion a huge club, fans, history, facilities but that doesn't mean we can spend like one because it doesn't equate to huge club finances.

I don’t think anyone wants us to go out and spend hundreds of millions.

 

[Vauxie]

Centre halves used to be 5 and 6 when I started watching .I’m sure Tony Towers was a 4. Numbers all over the place now mind

I mind when they used term of "link man" which later became midfielder

 

[wrighty]

I mind when they used term of "link man" which later became midfielder

We’ll be talking about inside forwards soon and really showing our age

 

[Arfa Sleep]

Which is fair enough. If that’s what said posters are happy to accept, but we can’t then argue we are this massive club, and argue we are bigger than the mags, boro Coventry etc.

Based on this logic, historically yes. In the modern game, not a chance.

In terms of competing, with some clubs we can't (or maybe more like won't) financially which is why they're looking to do things in a different way. However, we absolutely need an experienced striker and some experience in the midfield.

 

[SAFC Wilks]

Is this the lad who left spurs went to the Belgium league and can’t get in their side either?

Aye, the same one who Spurs offered a 5 year deal to.

 

[Safc88]

So we just accept we can’t compete with Ipswich now? We just accept we are a mid table championship side, who pushes for the play offs?

Basically a Coventry or Boro, but with the added “model” craic. Is that our position now?

One of the biggest mysteries on here for me that. Posters go absolutely nuts, and defensive when someone says a club are bigger than us, especially if Boro or the mags are included in that statement.

However some posters who are the most animate, then make all these excuses of our actions.

Which is it, are we just an historically big club, who now operates at championship level, with a push for promotion. Or are we the humongous club people are so keen to defend?

Havnt you heard ipswich will go bust if they dont go up iirc

 

[Dobblemackem]

In terms of competing, with some clubs we can't (or maybe more like won't) financially which is why they're looking to do things in a different way. However, we absolutely need an experienced striker and some experience in the midfield.

Exactly.

I don’t think anyone expects us to go out and spend 30m plus. But when you have mvilla as an example wanting to come back, and the club saying it plans miles ahead, how is it plausible we can’t get those two positions in.

 

[Vauxie]

We’ll be talking about inside forwards soon and really showing our age

George Herd and Johnny Crossan

 

[Dobblemackem]

Havnt you heard ipswich will go bust if they dont go up iirc

Is that the latest excuse, not read that one.

 

[Coeus]

I don’t think anyone wants us to go out and spend hundreds of millions.

I'm not suggesting they're. I just think the way you posed that question was a really interesting one and cuts to the centre of half the disagreements on here.

Facilities, fans, history, were what, top 6? Finances we fall way lower, I'd suggest that great steps are being taken to remedy the finance in the best way possible without having someone bankroll it, others would suggest it shouldn't be the case.

 

[chunksafc]

Is that the latest excuse, not read that one.

I believe Hull have gambled their future as well

 

[Dobblemackem]

I'm not suggesting they're. I just think the way you posed that question was a really interesting one and cuts to the centre of half the disagreements on here.

Facilities, fans, history, were what, top 6? Finances we fall way lower, I'd suggest that great steps are being taken to remedy the finance in the best way possible without having someone bankroll it, others would suggest it shouldn't be the case.

Which is ultimately my question, and statement.

Historically Sunderland are a huge club. In my opinion, top 10 if not too 15 in England.

However based on where we are at the moment, we are no longer a huge “sleeping giant” we are your run of the mill championship play off contender.

I don’t think the attitude on argument of laughing at your Boro’s, coventrys and ipswiches of the world, and just expecting players to sign for us ahead of others, holds weight based on the defence of the “model”.

 

[woodlebert]

So we just accept we can’t compete with Ipswich now? We just accept we are a mid table championship side, who pushes for the play offs?

Basically a Coventry or Boro, but with the added “model” craic. Is that our position now?

One of the biggest mysteries on here for me that. Posters go absolutely nuts, and defensive when someone says a club are bigger than us, especially if Boro or the mags are included in that statement.

However some posters who are the most animate, then make all these excuses of our actions.

Which is it, are we just an historically big club, who now operates at championship level, with a push for promotion. Or are we the humongous club people are so keen to defend?

I wouldn’t demand we spend money if we can’t afford it. That would be silly.

I think we’re both surely? We’re a historically big club, who operate at championship level seeking promotion. That’s a descriptor of the club and one that a majority of football fans across the UK would accept.

We’re also a club with a sizeable fan base, history, trophies, which is a tradition and history worth defending, hence why fans are passionate when defending the club

 

[3 4 3]

Not suggesting we sign him but anyone know anything about him? Supposedly was very highly rated by Conte who moved him into the 1st team squad and Spurs fans are up in arms that he has left as a free agent.

Looks like Spurs offered him a very long term lucrative contract so they must have seen something in him to offer him a 5 year deal at 19 but he has turned it down.

Available on a free now. 19, England youth international and a winger

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I think this is an example of a deal being done by his agent in the back ground. The contact situation is totally in the players favour, it should be illegal for players or agents to be approached until the contact is up.

 

[rubberface]

Rumour has it we are after another two Liege youth players as part of this deal.

Speakman very keen to get value for money by nabbing a Mundle Bargain Bundle.

One of them a striker who had been at Man City and Man Utd as a teenager? Was told we were after one of the Liege strikers couple weeks ago. FC Twente wanted him aswel. Can't remember the name.